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    Www.becomeagutman.com

    Become a Gutman - Would love to hear anything you guys might think of this website. Its merely a week old, but its getting great reviews from everyone I come by. One suggestion, spend the time reading the articles, really worth it, 3 guys with excess experience have been hired to write them, though the language may sounds simple and "nothing-hard" to do.
    Go for it - trash talk it, praise it, whatever you feel like and whatever honestly you think of it!
    Thank you

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    Just had a quick look i had no idea what it was about so after 30 seconds i hit the exit button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mega B View Post
    Just had a quick look i had no idea what it was about so after 30 seconds i hit the exit button.
    Will take that into great consideration, thank you. Though, why dont you try and visit the site one more time, this time actually taking into consideration the given suggestion - read the title, the subtitle, visit all the pages, and then draw a conclusion. Will very much appreciate it, thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mega B View Post
    Just had a quick look i had no idea what it was about so after 30 seconds i hit the exit button.
    Really? Just visited for the first time read "First time visiting" thing on the top, read a few articles, some really interesting stuff there. Ill def. be a regular visitor

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    IMO, it looks like one of those annoying pages that pops up telling me how I can make $25,000 a week if I buy some program. For that reason alone I would have it the back button the moment i saw the site.

    Suggestion would be, make it look more professional. Money is exciting, I understand that. However, you are following the trend of a get rich quick site. That is not going to help you. Visual Branding, what is your logo look like? What are defining colors. The site is a hodgepodge of color and style.

    I have to agree with Mega, i can't tell what is going on with the site. nothing is very clear and you lost me after about 15 seconds.

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    Hey, thanks for that, will be considering measures to fix it all up in the not so distant future. Anything else you want to add to it - be more than welcome to. Thank you!

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    I just read some of the articles. I'll be doing some research on the topics but I definitly would NOT use your site to do so. It seems to be one big giant joke. I am I suppose to take the topic seriously? Am I suppose to look into this as an investment? I'm terribly confused.

    In your words here, can you please tell me the over all point of your site?

    Thanks much

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    Let me put some things in perspective:
    1. This site is targeted at students and the younger generation, therefore making it utterly serious and businesslike was not the intention. There are thousands of websites that are all "serious" and "professional", yet I laugh at what they offer.
    2. The site might look a bit "overly colorful" only for one reason - ease of use.
    3. The site is targeted to educate the growing generation of students about the power of investing and other essential business like skills that will all together lead to a more informed and financially conscious populous.
    4. Though investing and finance is a serious topic, who said it cant be fun and entertaining? And all the "this looks too colorful, simple and funny so it must be a scam" type of thinking is an internet curse put unto us, leaving us dead dry with academic language words and statistics that bore everyone.
    5. All the information, tactics, main financial advice, stock information, investing principles are all more credible than ever. Skeptical because of the funky language, colorful pictures and bright design? Take it or leave it, that will be it for now, though will consider the following remarks. Thank you!
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    Ok, first I am not old. I am apart of the youth generation and many people my age are still in college. You dont have to be completely serious like all other sites but you need to have direction.

    Second, ease of use? Colors affecting ease of use does not make sense to me. Can you please explain this?

    Thirdly, I commend you on trying to approach education of students in an "outside the box" maner, however you have sorely missed your mark. If i changed the topic of your site to learning the alphabet and 123's, the tone of the articles and way it is put forth would be more fitting.

    Fourth, there is no reason that you can not have "fun" with a financial investment site. However, I did not have fun on your site. There is a big difference between fun and informative and "what?". There has to be a certain level of seriousness in order to be taken seriously. Right now, you lack any level of seriousness. You are approaching a serious subject and treating your readers like small children essentailly. You have to have some level of seriousness for me to want to learn anything.

    As I mentioned in another post, I am a motivational coach to teens, an investor, business owner, and I'm not 25 yet. I've shown the website just now to 5 other people in my office. Age range between 19 and 23. They are here for tutoring and business coaching. So you have 6 people here, your key demographic and we are all agreeing that we simply do not understand the point of the site.

    You have a great idea, you just need to change the way you approach it. If I was marketed to this site and you told me "a fun way to learn finances", I would feel as though I had been tricked.

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    Future of Edu, what did you mean by hodgepodge of colour? I went to the site again and I thought their colour scheme had a very good flow with the green and blue and with the whole theme of (I'm assuming) looking as if its up in the clouds...

    I kind of agree with you with the get-rich quick aspect, but I have to admit it looks a lot different than any other financial website, like a breath of fresh air. I recommended the site to a few friends (Who are in their first years of uni) and they all said the writing style was perfect for students and was significantly more interesting to read than other sites.

    Maybe you feel that way because you are already so experienced in the world of business and just got very accustomed to being taught financial matters formally? That's the only way I can justify the reason that your friends found it didn't make much sense versus mine who thought it was perfect (experience)...

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    By Hodgepodge, I mean flow. All together as well as branding. IMO it lacks both.

    As far as experience. The young people that I showed it to have no experience in business. So their oppinion would be at the same "experience" level as your friends. Perhaps it is culture. Where are you located?

    While I understand your breath of fresh air comment, you have to look at an overall marketing package. How do you get people to a site like this and then with the way it is presented, how do you get them to stay? It's not a site that would be taken seriously by most that are wanting to be serious. It lacks the seriousness required to inform.

    I'll follow the site over the next year, already added to my favorites. I still stick with, it will not go any where as is. My suggestions are still the same, seek advice and input from those willing to give and take that advice seriously. It needs a substantial amount of work.

    For those that are not wanting to take the time,, here is the first article in "welcome to your mind" link.

    CAUTION: The following was written in an alien dialect that very few people can understand. If you understand the words coming out of this man’s mouth please contact us immediately.

    Oh bloody hell, dya hear that arse Mr. Moneybags? Sounds grotty a bit, ah? Well, well, he’s quite a berk, but one thing I do have to give to him, when it comes to managing my quid, he puts the bollocks aside and does what he knows best – count dosh.

    Pleasure to meet you chaps. You may be seated. Quite ironic that I’m about to welcome you to your own mind, but I guess that’s the way it goes over here in this land they call North America. That capitalistic git thinks he owns the world (Mr. Moneybags), well I’m about to disappoint him, for my name is The Big Cheese (a.k.a. the most important person), that’s right. Wowo, kidos, keep me on topic here, alright? I can talk about that manky Moneybag forever, so just wave your hand or throw a pencil at me, if you poor kids have one of course, and I’ll be right back on track.

    Now you’re going to ask me where’d I come from and what degrees I’ve earned to be qualified to teach you? That should not be a concern of yours, you chimney-pots. I have three degrees from some of the most prestigious educational establishments in the world: a Bachelors degree in Can-Opening-While-Operating-Nuclear-Machinery, a Masters in Ice Cream Production and a PhD. earned in dismantling school buses. All qualify me as a master of my art (teaching) and I will use everything I have learned from these degrees to fill that empty skull of yours with useful information – such as dismantling school buses.

    I precisely dedicated this section to the unscrewing and untangling of the grey mass inside your skull, I commonly refer to it as your brain. Don’t you think I’m doing this because I have nothing better to do with my time; I have Mr. Moneybags to chinwag with and fight him in order to save the world from his greedy hands that gobble up every penny he lays his beady lil’ eyes on. So be thankful fella’s, you are a part of the plan. I’ll have to apply all my nuclear machinery knowledge to that head of yours. If you didn’t know, the structure is pretty similar, so don’t you worry chaps.

    And as a result…if you try real hard and help me push my broken lorry out of the car park, you will grow to be a more decent human being than that smeghead, Mr. Moneybags! In fact, you even might grow a bit nicer than him and not turn into such a clanger! Though here comes the balls-up, the naked truth, I call it “the knickers” (because they’re as thrilling and exciting and hard to get!). I can teach you all the tricks and fiddles you’ll need to survive in this desecrated world. I will pass on all the knowledge and wisdom that Oxford and Yale taught me from those three degrees, but to get at least a fraction of the chuffy, doshy piles of money that melt my ice lolly with the flash lightning speed Mr. Moneybags manages to grow, becoming a Gutman is the answer.

    My sole purpose of educating you is to die happy and be able to openly say when I retire that I tried to fix the brains of this idle, lazy and passionless generation of twats. I’ll show you how to outwit those PhD. degree graduates with $1.50 in late fees from the library and without all the unnecessary bumph and rubbish that comes with it. That is all. Now go put them gutties on and let’s play some footie and dream that you will be as jammy as myself, The Big Cheese.




    Good luck,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future of Edu View Post
    IMO, it looks like one of those annoying pages that pops up telling me how I can make $25,000 a week if I buy some program. For that reason alone I would have it the back button the moment i saw the site.
    I thought the same thing.

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    FUTURE OF EDU:

    With posting the article, what did you mean by it? You see the language being strange and unreadable? Or what is the problem here? The guy is British, are we being discriminatory here?

    Thank you for your commitment to stay with the site, that is pleasant to hear.
    Once again thank you for your comments, pleased to hear experienced and not so much talk about the site. All the information given is more than enough at the moment for me to draw certain conclusions.
    Sincerely,
    Mr. Brain

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    My point in posting the article is this:

    When showing it to the 5 others in the office, i had them each look at the site one at a time. And asked them to pick a link. They picked your "new to investment link". They read the link and then clicked on the first link, which is mind. They chose this article which is "welcome to your mind" because it is first.

    Now can anyone reading that, tell me that they would consider this site to be a legitimate investment sight. Can anyone even say that this would be an investment site. It has absolutely nothing to do with him being british although the langauge does make it a little tougher for Americans. It has to do with the seriousness of the subject matter. Like I said before, I understand wanting to have fun with it but you have to stay on point while having fun.

    I'm glad to hear you'll consider some of what I'm saying and what hopefully others will say. I'll continue to follow the site.

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    I agree I went to the website and had no clue what it was about....I saw a bunch of advertisement type deals then I left. You should make the website clear and straight forward
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