Dotster
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2008, 05:04 AM
Shopfuze's Avatar
Junior Member
Send a message via AIM to Shopfuze
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 18
Starting business, Domain taken. Need help.
Ok here is my problem.

In all honest, one day I was in bed. I came up with this great idea, and a great name/brand. The problem is the domain for my company is being "Squated" on by someone who registered it back in 2002. The domain just recently went into "PendingDelete", then was back ordered by someone.

I own the trademark to the name, and it is not generic. Am I able to get this domain since I own the trademark?

What should I do?
"Becoming an Entrepreneur means thinking outside of the box"
Shopfuze is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote

  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2008, 05:23 AM
zharlene's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 345
Yes, if you own the trademark and it's not a generic word, you have every right to the domain. You should just ask the person who owns it to hand it to you (up to you if you're willing to buy it for reg fee).
zharlene is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2008, 05:24 AM
Mega B's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Just North of London in UK.
Posts: 1,404
If someone else has registered the name again i dont think you will have much chance in fact no chance,there is one way you could get it and that is approach the new owner and make a offer for the domain but dont pressure it to much or mention anything about you owning trademarks etc as he will sense that you want it urgently and boy he will take advantage of it and push the selling price up.You also mentioned that this person has owned the domain name since 2002 how long have you had your trademark ???
File Host Filehosting A New Revolution is Coming Link Generator ... www.twurlit.com

Last edited by Mega B; 06-19-2008 at 05:27 AM.
Mega B is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote

  #4 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2008, 05:41 AM
Shopfuze's Avatar
Junior Member
Send a message via AIM to Shopfuze
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 18
Mega,

The LLC and trademark were regostered about 2 weeks ago. The domain was bought in 2002 and went into "PendingDelete" about a week ago. I was trying to register it but a squatter used snapnames to grab the domain before I could.
"Becoming an Entrepreneur means thinking outside of the box"
Shopfuze is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2008, 06:04 AM
Mega B's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Just North of London in UK.
Posts: 1,404
I think that if they have grabbed it i dont think you can do anything about it apart from what i have said before and make a offer for it,they dont have to sell the name !!!

The only other option is to get another domain similar or with a differant .extension to it like .us instead of .com

Only a suggestion.
File Host Filehosting A New Revolution is Coming Link Generator ... www.twurlit.com
Mega B is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote

  #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2008, 10:39 AM
Fadzuli's Avatar
Senior Member
Send a message via MSN to Fadzuli
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Singapore
Posts: 158
Didn't you check for the domains first before you pay for the trademark?

Probably this is a lesson learnt...Some people may tell you to trademark your brand first. But in this era you have to check for both online and offline..

If you really need it badly, then talk to the guy nicely and buy it from him...


ENTREPRENEURSHIP JOURNEYS
WWW.FADZULI.COM
Fadzuli is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2008, 01:11 PM
YE Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 578
I think you will find that it is very difficult to get that domain name unless you purchase it for whatever price you can negotiate with the current owner. The reason large companies can pursue domains with their trademarks in them is because they have millions of dollars to do so. A trademark is only worth the money you can spend on attorneys to enforce it. If you don't have the money to fight, you don't have a valuable trademark and you don't have any power.
JLeezer is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2008, 03:06 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: rockland county NY
Posts: 183
This is funny beucase i recently had this convorsation with my aunt, who is an attorney. She told me that once you own the trademark your entitled to that domain. Now, if a person is using it for a blog or such, you may not be able to make a claim. In the other case, where its "parked", YOUR entitled to that domain and they must sell you that domain for no more then the price they attained it.

The problem is finding the person who owns it. I will ask her what you can do (further steps) sometime soon.
JohnnyBudZ is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2008, 03:21 PM
Shopfuze's Avatar
Junior Member
Send a message via AIM to Shopfuze
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 18
I did check to see if the domain was registered before trademarking the name.

I trademarked the name 2 weeks ago, and the domain was set to expire a week after that. I didn't think anyone else would want it so I was going to register it when it dropped. Well someone thought otherwise and used snapnames to grab it.

There is nothing on the site, and hasn't been for a long time. The domain is being squated on. As far as getting a attorney and taking to court, if that is necessary then I guess that is what will happen.
"Becoming an Entrepreneur means thinking outside of the box"
Shopfuze is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2008, 05:34 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: rockland county NY
Posts: 183
OK well I spoke to her earlier, she told me that if someones USING the site for something (which there not) then theres no sense in making a claim enless your a multi million dollar corp. On the other hand, you have the legal rights to that name, if someone is just parking it for investment purposes, thats illegal. Its not a serious crime, and someones not going to jail over it, but you CAN take them to a civil court. In this case I have no idea how you would go about that beucase he could be in india then who the hell knows.

You just have to ask yourself: Is this idea really worth taking legal action over?
JohnnyBudZ is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2008, 07:43 PM
Shopfuze's Avatar
Junior Member
Send a message via AIM to Shopfuze
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 18
Yea it's deff worth taking legal action, but hopefully it wont come to that.
"Becoming an Entrepreneur means thinking outside of the box"
Shopfuze is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 06-20-2008, 12:32 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 47
Have you contacted the new owner? Have they tried to sell you the domain?
Cornelian is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 06-20-2008, 02:19 PM
LiL1Penny's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 63
Hope its not shopfuze.com that your after cuz there is a site up on that domain. That might make it a little more difficult for you.
Chri$


TFC
The Founding Collegians

http://www.TheFC.com


BeerPong and Boobs what more do you need!!!
LiL1Penny is offline
Submit to Facebook Tweet This
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


YoungEntrepreneur Logo Featured on: Business Week About Alltop Wall Street Journal
Dotster