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    I am newbie here in SEO. Got to know more tips regarding SEO, since im working in outsourcing company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregdavidson View Post
    SEO is so simple it's beyond belief. Time-consuming but not rocket science like some people think it is.
    As arrogant as this statement may appear, you are completely correct and I hope people understand that.

    Time, lots of content, links, and making sure your site is feasible to your users, but "Time" we all know is the biggest and most valuable commodity out there...
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    Explain how the two different keyword like SEO and Cruise when we combine them for a domain doesit make value to the site.

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    He is talking about the "Authority Listing" I hope you got it now. But my question is about the future of SEO. What can you say about the future of SEO? I have just started my career with SEO and I want to know about the future of SEO. Some one could look for a future in SEO?
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    Moxie,

    so time on G's index is a major factor in rankings? what about volume of content?

    I have an interestins case study I'd be keen for your opinion on.

    cheapesthomeownersinsurance.net comes up on the first page of my G search for "cheapest homeowners insurance". It's PR0 has no inbound links and is a very simple site. reg'd in Nov this year I believe.

    cheapesthomeownersinsurance.info doesn't show up at all in the same query. Has incoming links and more content, just indexed and reg'd early Dec.

    As far as I can see there are only two real differences between these sites. The time listed on G (.net is about 1 month older) and the tld of .net and .info

    From what I can tell, the .info should rank higher than the .net - right?

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    I'm sure it would be a lot easier if........

    Some thoughts that spring to mind are

    • metatags
      backlinks
      links to blogs and other websites
      'invisible pages'
      web traffic
      RSS feeds
      sitemaps
      widgets
      Webmaster tools compliance


    But I am sure that Google have a complicated algorithm to work out their search rankings.

    Why don't they give us an early Christmas present, and just tell us what the secret is?

    I agree it's not rocket science, but you need the recipe to make the meal properly!

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    ran both sites through a website analysis tool to check stuff like metas, the .info is streets ahead of the .net.

    .info reg'd and compliant with MBT, sitemap submitted.

    do outbound links actually count dfor something? should I be linking to some good sites? I thought it was basically always better to restrict outbound links if possible.

    Honestly, take a look at both sites and tell me if there's something I'm missing about the .net

    cheers,

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    useful post....
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    To all the self proclaimed SEO experts out there - I'd appreciate the benefits of your wisdom on this:

    Please take a look at cheapesthomeownersinsurance.net and cheapesthomeownersinsurance.info

    Then please tell me why the .net ranks #8 for a G search on cheapest Homeowners Insurance and the .info is #322 for the same query.

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    Arrow Site Links Revealed!

    Quote Originally Posted by ZekeLL View Post
    I don't really know what you mean. Are you talking about getting all the results on the first page?
    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterGroup View Post
    I know what he's talking about. As an example, THIS SEARCH FOR HOTELS brings up Hotels.com as #1 in the SERPS and beneath the main URL are several categories, in this
    Quote Originally Posted by lifefulfilled View Post
    You are correct. These are automatically generated by Google.
    You may have moved on from this already but it's still worth mentioning. The site links as lifefulfilled pointed are are automatically generated by Google's algorithm. The "Why" seems to be causing some questions here.

    The reason why a domain would get site links verses others is because Google sees that particular site as the "authority" for that particular keyword/phrase.

    As to how you can get site links for a particular keyword for your domain is the underlying question. For site links to appear you would need to have 3 or more separate pages ranked in the top 10 for the SERPs for that keyword/phrase and one of those pages would have to have the #1 spot.

    The other pages just need to make the top 10 in the SERPs to be listed as your domain's site links.

    I hope this clears things up a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heidrek View Post
    Then please tell me why the .net ranks #8 for a G search on cheapest Homeowners Insurance and the .info is #322 for the same query.
    I guess I qualify since I get paid to do SEO for websites. Without knowing the query term and pages that are coming up in the results I can only give you some general info on what to look for.

    1. Title tags- if one site has title tags that match exactly while the other does not this would be the first thing I look for.

    2. Backlinks- Assuming all other things are equal the number of backlinks to that particular page with anchor text matching the query would make a difference.

    3. Content- If the content is the exactly the same Google will not show both results. Most of the time it will show the result of the page it found first all else being equal.

    There are many other factors that could account for the difference but that's where I would start.

    hope this helps

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    Hi Mical,

    Thats exactly my point. I've since sold the .info so this is a mott point now, but the underlying issue remains.

    The .net I think is still up so go and take a look at it. It's a basic site with no links.

    The .info had more content, Title and content all targeted at "cheapest homeowners insurance", HUNDREDS of incoming links, most from insurance related sites (you can still go take a look at the domain now - the links will still be in place even though I've sold it.

    content was individual - in no way a carbon copy of the .net (which I don't own) so duplication shouldn't be a factor. internal link sturcture was sound, you name it. If you look back in the thread you'll see that I even ran both url's through a query targeting tool and the .info was streets ahead in every metric. This is supported by the fact that it became PR5 while the .net remians 0.

    STILL, the .info didn't show up ona G search for "cheapest homeowners insurance" while the .net sat on pg1.

    I'm still puzzled by this, but have since moved on. No more .info for me I think if I'm looking to net search trafic. I suspect G applies "trust" factors to all TLD's. Trust is gained over time for all tld's, but .com, net and org gain it more quickly. .biz and .info gain it more slowly (much more slowly).

    This is just speculation of course, but it seems to stack up. could be a lot more sophisticated but I do think there is something to the TLD in terms of treatment in Search results.

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    Hello Heidrek and all. You lads really sound like you know your stuff, great. I just found this site now, delighted with myself. Can i ask you about s.e.o please, and more specifically 'articles' and 'back links'. Is there a programme / software or website, that can create numerous articles for me on a certain subject? Is it a case of just paying for them are is there any way of getting free articles? Secondly, in relation to back links, is it just a case of going on to various related forums and making a comment and then posting your URL address? Or how do you recommended going about this best, any do's or don't. Really appreciate your time man. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevekerr101 View Post
    Hello Heidrek and all. You lads really sound like you know your stuff, great. I just found this site now, delighted with myself. Can i ask you about s.e.o please, and more specifically 'articles' and 'back links'. Is there a programme / software or website, that can create numerous articles for me on a certain subject? Is it a case of just paying for them are is there any way of getting free articles? Secondly, in relation to back links, is it just a case of going on to various related forums and making a comment and then posting your URL address? Or how do you recommended going about this best, any do's or don't. Really appreciate your time man. Thanks.
    Steve

    Hi Steve,

    I'm still relatively new to this as well, but here is what I've found out that might help you.

    1. Articles: Yes, there is software that can automate the article sumbission process and submit your hand written article to numerous article directories, but you have to buy the software of course and it usually has a monthly subscription cost. Some software "spins" your articles as well, making changes to them so that they appear to be nique articles and are more likely to get accepted. I haven't used them before so I cant say how good they are.

    you can manually write and submit articles, there arwe many sites that allow this, the problem is getting them to standout from all the others. you cana lso pay someone to write and submit articles for you.

    2. Links: there are many ways to get links. Link exchange programs, forum sig's article writing or you can pay someone to build links for you. The thing to remember about link building is that you really want links from sites related to yours and PAGES with content related to yours. Other things to remember is that vaierty is good. both in terms of where your links are coming from and the anchor text of your links.

    Personally I like forum sig links a lot as they serve a double purpose, getting you links (though they aren't very strong given that so many links go out from forums) and also if your anchor text is attractive you can get legitinmate traffic as well.

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    hi heidrek. thanks for you help with that, much appreciated.

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