why you shouldn't deal with china!

**RawMarketing** · 10-24-2009 07:14 AM

I have some friends who live in India and I've always thought it would be a good idea to try and sort out a deal for businesses there to import products to Australia due to all of the benefits of dealing with a country where all your expenses are so low.

I think these are three key ingredients to sorting out a good Importation arrangement:

Communication
You have to visit the business face-to-face, simply discussing over the internet is not worth the risk if you are injecting thousands of dollars into importing products. I have a friend who imports around $100k/month from China and he goes there 2-3 times a year and deals with French people who live there.

Trust
You must be able to ensure that there is a mutual trust between both parties. I'd also veer away from aligning myself with a larger manufacturer due to the risk of them seeing your product is a success and trying to sell it to other retailers in your country.

Quality
Always an important factor. You want them to guarantee that they won't mess you around and that they'll personally check to ensure you get the goods every time.

**desertfish** · 11-02-2009 09:59 PM

different people have different opinions. There are bad people and good people everywhere. But for long-term relationship,everyone should be honest and sincere.

**David Morson** · 12-15-2009 06:33 AM

Some of my friends have got the opportunity to visit China for business purposes but they didn't have any bad experiences regarding their business. I think that to be present in China is more important and there are less chances of any scam or fraud.

**dan7** · 12-15-2009 07:24 AM

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**TaiwanExporter** · 01-05-2010 09:33 PM

The first thing you "have" to do if you want to do business in China is learn Chinese. Get it, your in China and they want you to talk to them in "their" language.

Really, American and most of the free world are so stupid that they still teach Spanish and even Latin in the school systems instead of giving children a head start in a language that can actually make them money in the future.

Their are 2 prices for everything in China. The price you are quoted because you can't speak Chinese and the price all the Chinese pay and anyone who can speak Chinese pays.

Stop wasting your time on getting useless MBA's and go back and take a year of chinese and make money.

**irish_guy101** · 01-19-2010 09:34 AM

Well said Taiwan,

The last two paragraphs echo my own sentiments & the last line makes me smile & nod in agreement

**alcglobalpartners** · 01-20-2010 10:15 AM

Hi everyone,

My business, ALC Global Partners, LLC emerged out of the very problem you mention. We are a sourcing consultancy that help clients buy products in China. You are very right that doing business with people you don't know in China can be very risky. That is why my company only sources from factories that we have visited ourselves and are geographically near enough to oversee production. In addition, the payment standard you mention (50 upfront, 50 after work is completed) is actually not the standard. Usually you are asked to pay 30/ 70 (30 down and 70 when the work is complete). You must be very careful in contract negociations and you are right that bargaining is the norm.

If anyone has more questions I would be happy to respond. (I lived and worked in China for over 2 years and speak, read and write fluent Mandarin.)

Good luck, but always be careful!!!

**epvirtualassistants** · 01-27-2010 09:02 PM

SOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE! Some of Chinese products are of poor quality! yeah, the price is cheap for their products but you'll suffer for the quality

**Will** · 01-30-2010 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by TaiwanExporter

The first thing you "have" to do if you want to do business in China is learn Chinese. Get it, your in China and they want you to talk to them in "their" language.

Really, American and most of the free world are so stupid that they still teach Spanish and even Latin in the school systems instead of giving children a head start in a language that can actually make them money in the future.

Their are 2 prices for everything in China. The price you are quoted because you can't speak Chinese and the price all the Chinese pay and anyone who can speak Chinese pays.

Stop wasting your time on getting useless MBA's and go back and take a year of chinese and make money.

Totally untrue.

If you are naive in buying/dealing in China, yes you may not get a great price. Though if you go in with good experience, and maybe even a translator you can get amazing results. Chinese manufacturers are not looking to give just Chinese speaking people the best price, where did you learn that?
The reason the Chinese economy is so huge is that it exports most things to the rest of the world, these companies thrive off of foreign buyers, so please do not post that stupidity, as some people might just believe you if they know no better.

**vince** · 02-02-2010 06:03 AM

They all cant be that bad..i second the notion that one should go to them personally.

**janice2009** · 02-05-2010 03:10 PM

Yes, I believe that there's good business in China, it's just that there are lots of deceptive people who ruin the name's reputation in business as a whole.

Another scam to stay clear of is Bayt.com. This website is a money making scheme. They initial services are free and then they force you to pay $250 to create a CV or remain jobless. This is not fair, this is fraud, the are cheating people out of the money they rather use to survive in the countries that $250 really matter.

I have found out the owners name, its Rabea Ataya, this guy is a fraud, scam. He has a very bad reputation in the GCC countries for coming up with money making scams. I did some search on the web and found a lot negative articles on Bayt.com and I am not sure how they can still have an office in Dubai.

There is a way to complain to the UAE authorities its called Al Ameen Services Al Ameen complain here if your have lost $250 for Bayt.com CV creating service.

Check out Bayt.com on Ripoff Ripoff Report: Bayt.com Bayt.com Scam / Fraud Dubai, Internet

**vince** · 02-05-2010 04:26 PM

I checked the ''sourcingreview'' its undercontruction

**orson.octavius** · 02-11-2010 11:49 PM

I don't know honestly I could see the argument either way. But I do feel the Olympics draw attention to an otherwise largely ignored issue. So yeah, play the games.

**freeliving** · 02-21-2010 10:21 PM

I am a western man who lives in China i own a Honk kong import /export company. what i see is people need to understand there is no easy money you have to "research" and know what you want! after you find it you then "research" and find all the suppliers of said product.You will see alot of China products are already in the states sitting there collecting dust very easy to go inspect the product 1st and buy at a discount. if you are ordering a container from China then you set up a corp. very cheap to do, open a business account and pay by LC (letter of credit) to protect yourself with insurance but 1st "research" ask people who also buy and sell said product you will find it is sometimes better to pay a small finders fee to get it from them instead! Take a vacation and visit the factory or you can contact people like me who will find what you are looking for and I speak English!..lol but I will tell you most Chinese business people here do speak English just be nice and speak slowly and use a translater while you are talking to help

**atulhost** · 03-16-2010 06:15 AM

I strongly agree with you and the simple question is that at so cheap prices how can they maintain high quality of product and services. You cant think use and throw all the time.