why you shouldn't deal with china!

[EIH888]

Hahahah...

Can you make money dealing with the chinese? yes.

Is it worth it? I would say, no.

I spent the last 4 years in taiwan and china, learning the language and culture. taiwan is good, but in mainland china I've found that the chinese are terrible people in general, well unless you also think it's perfectly fine to only care about yourself and your family and f@#% everyone else. Not to mention all the political garbage like blocking youtube and facebook and wikipedia was blocked for a long time and then went back up, we'll see in the future. Even though I've spend so much time and effort learning chinese, I would like to see nothing more than the world boycotting china and letting them rot in their own filth...

[Firdous]

if you can make money by dealing with them, and you say yes which mean its worth for your business. we dont go there with family and stay up there. we go > get deal > check goods > we done, back to your country.

And, anyone one go to any other country, they will find something missing about the country and saying their homeland is better. its same goes to me. serious sh*t. human thing

I go there for few days only.. i cant stand with the garbage and alot of thing.

[semmyw]

I think with Chinese suppliers, you have to know how to deal with them. I worked with a toy manufacturer in China; a company from Harbin in Northern China and they did wonders. Granted, we was actually on the ground there to inspect the products before they went in the shipping containers. The Chinese like to think that they can squeeze out every last drop of your hard-earned money if they try hard enough.

A couple tips I can give when dealing with them is

1) Be in China to actually talk to them; your presence is important

2) Bring a gift as a token of appreciation; trust me this helps amazingly. We brought the owner we were working with a bottle of Merlot and he was grinning like a 16 year old.

3) Don't deal with the middlemen, find someone who can speak or write Chinese, and look up the numbers for the factories directly and call them. Good electronics producers tend to be near GuangZhou, ShenZhen, and in southern China near Hong Kong. I stayed away from websites that linked you to Chinese companies and instead I found my own.

4) Safety codes. The Chinese consumer safety laws are enforced by local magistrates and these local office almost have sole discretionary control on what is acceptable and what is not. We found that in GuangSui and ShangDong provice, the codes are enforced the harshest. Also, more developed provinces also tend to enforce them stronger. Comparatively, some provinces take it as a mere piece of paper and make you post it on a wall in hope you will somehow read it and decides to follow it out of the goodness of your heart.

In the end, even though it was a good amount of work, we got an amazing deal. The quality was great and we had a good time dealing with them through our interpreter.

this is amazing information! thanks man.. I'll copy on my note pad.. thank you

[peteVA]

I deal with the Chinese on a daily basis. While I am a US citizen, I offer dropshipping and small bulk wholesale from Shenzhen. I also have a Chinese lady I partner with doing business verification services on Chinese businesses.

While I have a US citizen living in China as a partner, I have come to be friends with several Chinese, hearing of trips to the hospital and the beach, the lack of living space and other things.

From a business standpoint, it is a constant struggle, even with our own employees. The "I was looking for a job when I found this one" attitude is prevalent amongst most workers, who are more or less guaranteed a job.

There is no sense of urgency in filling orders. In my case many of my customers are selling dropshipped goods on eBay or Amazon, and they live in fear of negative feedback, so rapid order fill is important. Much less important to our employees, but after finally finding a good supervisor that is no longer a problem.

I've sent hundreds of thousands of dollars to China and never been cheated out of a penny.

China is not going away, the quality of their goods is constantly improving, although there are many "factories" willing to build down to a price. Many of these are kitchen tables and bedrooms, but they say they are factories, even if their supply chain is rummaging trash bins.

You definitely need to make sure who you are dealing with, but there are many legitimate Chinese business people.

[eileen521]

People easily say someting they don't know really.

Remember, the world is big.

You are right. Someone just speak something without bases

[SmallVolume]

You can not be so absolute. There also so many good products exports to all over the world every day.

[camlin]

I am totally agree with Mr.peteVA.

i think he provided us some useful information here.
So,
Follow according to him.

You also take help from me . You also can asked questions frequently.

Thanks

[Scar Tissue]

Deal with China , have to understand the subtle aspect of culture

For Western practice, more rule based on regulations or laws. However in China, most important business cannot occur until ''quan xi '' (relationship) is developed, written agreement secondary to quan xi .

[zmonique2007]

We can't change the fact that "Made in China" is also "Made in World". China goods are indispensable to consumers all over the world.

[Scar Tissue]

And the reason that multinational manufacturers shift their production lines to China is
to take advantage of inexpensive labor cost and the lax environmental and regulatory controls over there... ...

[peteVA]

Some are now leaving China for Thailand and elsewhere. It's all about the cheapest labor.

[juztin]

I gotta admit that Chinese way of doing businesses are questionable but the money is there... Business relations is like a couple relationship... You date one, learn the bad things from that person...things dont go well..you break up...and get another one ...simple...

Until you find a good reliable company you will be happy and will work along eachother for the sake of both businesses...

Until the role switches...We will become the next manufacturer country probably in a few years. China will become a country with power and financial stability and become a consuming country not the world's factory like we used to know

just my 2 cents of reality

[Warranties-For-Less]

Interesting,

As I always like to revisit threads from start to finish, it is amazing how a few years can change a whole industry. China, love them or hate them, you can make a fortune dealing with them, but like many have stated, you have to know how. Reading through this thread demonstrated this clearly, so in my experience, there is much to learn, and this thread is a good place for any entrepreneur to learn from.

I have just started to introduce a new technology for wireless mobile where we put dial tone on any mobile cell phone, and since most cell phones are manufactured in China, this is an exploding market with hundreds of millions of cell phones in use, so introducing a technology which can be used on any old cheap cell phone, not an expensive GSM smart phone is key to entering new markets. I was importing dual SIM phones to help world travelers save hundreds on their trips getting ripped on roaming charges, and now with this new technology, you can call from anywhere to anywhere for a mere fraction of cost, and you no longer need to own a SIM smart phone, a big savings for most.

The bottom line is you will always need China for products, you cannot avoid it even if you try, there are cost pressures impacting every business in the world, so don't treat the Chinese market like you use to a few years ago, their economy is hot, and the U.S. is not, so most of my business is now coming from China and it is largely because of contacts I had made with several cell phone manufacturers, so learn how to deal with China and you will be glad you did. I know I did and my VOIP-COIP business is exploding because of it.

Success to all,

[strosdegoz]

Thats pretty true!!

[sellladybag.com]

sorry to hear so many bad elements of China,but only you have to know is that you will get what you paid for .