[jonathanfigaro]

Originally Posted by Joshua Jones

I don't know that MLM, Direct Sales or Network Marketing (w/e you call it) is actually what's hated by most people. I do know from experience that most of the people involved in these kinds of businesses are just flat out noobs. I don't mean that in a negative way, just a term to explain their understanding of basic communication, confidence and relationship development skills.

Anyone can be successful with an MLM, but they must grow personally, or they will spin their wheels and quit in a matter of months if not weeks. It's the aftermath of their failed attempt that turns people off, in my opinion.

You are totally right, you have to have a real solid team that are aren't only people who are working for a common cause, but are your close friends too. Because, if you don't have tight team...you may want to reconsider.

[ReachConnection]

Originally Posted by WanganRunner

People don't like MLM because it isn't a real goddamned business.

At it's best, a legitimate MLM turns you into a salesman, not an entrepreneur. At it's worst, it's a pyramid scheme.

It doesn't help that MANY of the MLM's out there are wholly illegitimate, but even the honest ones still shouldn't be what a real entrepreneur wants to hear about. Running a business and being a salesman aren't the same thing. If I wanted to have "limitless potential for profit!!!OMG" and NOT really run my own show, I'd just be a goddamned financial advisor or something. It's for people of limited vision.

I also can't stand marketing people, honestly. If I can make money without having to convince people of things they wouldn't otherwise accept without me, everyone else can too. Vultures.

I agree so much with this. I did different types of MLM, Primerica, door-to-door, business-to-business, cydcor, global health, etc.

I have made some money, but the move valuable thing that i took away is how to talk to people, sales skill, which i think are essential to everyday life.

mlm is a good opportunity, but you got to work hard to make it big

[ijustdoit]

...most people are online for 1 reason and 1 reason only and that's to make money. As long as it's a legitimate business and everyone is working together to accomplish the goal why not do it? The problem is we don't want to be at the bottom where we don't get the support/paid. If there was a guarantee that we would get paid we would all do it. I know I would, but there is no assurance that someone else will be placed under you etc.. so, no one wants to be that person.

Valerie
Quality Traffic Site

[ParagonAOD]

It is always the high rate of failure that turns people off of MLM opportunities. In our experience, you have to find a company and product that you believe in and one that offers real value. We found that company to be IDA.

Earn the $200,000 "Annuity for Life" with IDA Leaders - Be one of the first

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What's Special about IDA?

* Save 10% to 40% on your auto insurance! (without changing your agent or company) This is made possible by the CDRP (Collision Deductible Reserve Plan)

* One of the most aggressive compensation packages in the history of networking! 80% goes back to the field!!!

* Earn the Annuity for Life! For those who qualify, income streams could provide annual income in excess of $200,000 + without requiring the Associate to continue producing or building an organization, providing a true ?walk away? income stream. IDA is the only networking opportunity that offers a true retirement income stream to its Associates.

* The customer retention rate is above 98%

* You do not need to be licensed to sell the product!

This company is not your ordinary opportunity. Several of the world business leaders have founded this company, among the principals of IDA is Gerald McElroy, IDA's CFO.

Gerald McElroy Is vice chairman and Sr. Director of Farmers Insurance. Gerald McElroy, has over 30 years of experience in the financial services and insurance industries. He is currently a member of the Board of Governors, Farmers Group of Insurance Companies a member of the board of directors for several organizations including a global insurance company and a number of growth oriented firms. He is a leader in the insurance industry and bring invaluable expertise and knowledge to the IDA team.

Also Richard Hawkins the Vice President of AAA for the State of Washington has joined the IDA team. His experience and knowledge have been invaluable in the creation and bringing forth of this program.
The Industry leaders guiding this company make it one of the strongest founded companies to have come together.

This company is already growing very fast in pre-launch and will continue to do so.

Have you ever had the chance to be at the beginning of a phenomenal business opportunity?

This is your chance to earn a retirement of $200,000 a year, every year, for the rest of your life!!

We are looking for motivated individuals that are passionate about helping others save money and passionate about securing their own financial freedom!

Come and look and join the team!

Check it out by visiting paragonaod (.) com.
or by calling us at 866-961-6999


__________________
Attn: Car Insurance MLM Prelaunch. Save 10% - 40% on Auto Insurance without changing insurance companies or agents. No Licensing Required! Earn the "Annuity for life" Bonus $200,000+ a year, every year for the rest of your life.

Board Members include the Senior Director and Vice Chairman of Farmers Insurance and V.P. of AAA of Washington

[KatrinaManning]

Probably because a lot of people were made promises of wealth by these companies that weren't kept.

[Rich Grads]

People FAIL because of improper training and their own personal hang-ups.

Unfortunately, many of the network marketing companies out there provide little if any training. The people are sold on the idea of quick riches. And while you can achieve excellent income in 2 to 5 years, which in comparison to the 40 year "job plan" is relatively quick, it takes a consistent effort and the application of solid business techniques and skills.

Like most things in life, only a few are willing to learn what they need to in order to become successful. It's true for people who are trying to lose weight, learn how to play golf, invest in real estate, play a musical instrument, learn to swim, become a successful entrepreneur, etc...

Saying "don't get involved with MLM/Network Marketing because most people fail" is like saying to someone, "don't join a gym to lose weight, because most people don't lose any!" It just doesn't make sense.

There are many people who have become successful in Network Marketing / MLM. Just like there are many people who lose weight by going to a gym. But most don't. This is true. But this is true about all things in life, and to claim otherwise to this is to be ignorant to this truth.

People FAIL because they QUIT. I hate playing tennis and I refuse to play it ever again. It's not for me. That doesn't mean that I failed at tennis and most people will too, it means I quit tennis.

I think that almost everything in life that we can 'do,' MOST people will fail at it. And mainly because they quit it.

My advice is for someone to get the training to develop the skills they need to become successful at MLM and put these skills into action. But like getting in your car and dragging our fat asses to the gym, most won't.

My two cents anyway.

Cheers!

[Rich Grads]

Some people think "stupid" as you put it Bakewell, some people view it as brilliant. Some people are open minded, some are closed up as tight as a drum. Which one do you think ends up more successful??

[Justice44]

Originally Posted by sicnarftea

I have, tried two seperate MLMs, both failed as both of them sold the opportunity and not the product.

To tell the truth MLM is just a lazy excuse of a business plan for people who don't really want to go that extra mile to formulate their own product and their own business.

I think that is a rather harsh assessment. Do you feel the same way toward people who start McDonald's franchises?

[Justice44]

Originally Posted by Bakewell86

They're more concerned with getting more salesmen (who pay like $150 to join) instead of selling their legal insurance. They're making more money on their own people than their damned product... How stupid is that???????????????????

Are you calling PPL marketing strategy stupid? You do know this is a 36 year old company that is in profit mode. You do know that Harlan Stonechipher is at least a millionaire.:confuse d:

In saying that, there is some seeds of truth to what you are saying. The vast majority of MLM intensley focus on sponsorship. The more recruits they add to their business the more memberships they will sell. The greater possiblity they will find members who will sell multiple memberships.

Althought this idea can not be considered foolish, I would add that MLM companies should promote referral/word or mouth marketing as another means of generating income.

My friend, I think you need to do more research on MLM. I am not saying all MLM's are legitimate but your overgeneralizations are outrageous.

[Justice44]

Originally Posted by ParagonAOD

It is always the high rate of failure that turns people off of MLM opportunities. In our experience, you have to find a company and product that you believe in and one that offers real value. We found that company to be IDA.

Earn the $200,000 "Annuity for Life" with IDA Leaders - Be one of the first

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

What's Special about IDA?

* Save 10% to 40% on your auto insurance! (without changing your agent or company) This is made possible by the CDRP (Collision Deductible Reserve Plan)

* One of the most aggressive compensation packages in the history of networking! 80% goes back to the field!!!

* Earn the Annuity for Life! For those who qualify, income streams could provide annual income in excess of $200,000 + without requiring the Associate to continue producing or building an organization, providing a true ?walk away? income stream. IDA is the only networking opportunity that offers a true retirement income stream to its Associates.

* The customer retention rate is above 98%

* You do not need to be licensed to sell the product!

This company is not your ordinary opportunity. Several of the world business leaders have founded this company, among the principals of IDA is Gerald McElroy, IDA's CFO.

Gerald McElroy Is vice chairman and Sr. Director of Farmers Insurance. Gerald McElroy, has over 30 years of experience in the financial services and insurance industries. He is currently a member of the Board of Governors, Farmers Group of Insurance Companies a member of the board of directors for several organizations including a global insurance company and a number of growth oriented firms. He is a leader in the insurance industry and bring invaluable expertise and knowledge to the IDA team.

Also Richard Hawkins the Vice President of AAA for the State of Washington has joined the IDA team. His experience and knowledge have been invaluable in the creation and bringing forth of this program.
The Industry leaders guiding this company make it one of the strongest founded companies to have come together.

This company is already growing very fast in pre-launch and will continue to do so.

Have you ever had the chance to be at the beginning of a phenomenal business opportunity?

This is your chance to earn a retirement of $200,000 a year, every year, for the rest of your life!!

We are looking for motivated individuals that are passionate about helping others save money and passionate about securing their own financial freedom!

Come and look and join the team!

Check it out by visiting paragonaod (.) com.
or by calling us at 866-961-6999


__________________
Attn: Car Insurance MLM Prelaunch. Save 10% - 40% on Auto Insurance without changing insurance companies or agents. No Licensing Required! Earn the "Annuity for life" Bonus $200,000+ a year, every year for the rest of your life.

Board Members include the Senior Director and Vice Chairman of Farmers Insurance and V.P. of AAA of Washington

My friend that is why people have a bad image of MLM. Please stop SPAMMING!

[Justice44]

Originally Posted by ijustdoit

...most people are online for 1 reason and 1 reason only and that's to make money. As long as it's a legitimate business and everyone is working together to accomplish the goal why not do it? The problem is we don't want to be at the bottom where we don't get the support/paid. If there was a guarantee that we would get paid we would all do it. I know I would, but there is no assurance that someone else will be placed under you etc.. so, no one wants to be that person.

Valerie
Quality Traffic Site

[quote=ijustdoit;264904 If there was a guarantee that we would get paid we would all do it. I know I would, but there is no assurance that someone else will be placed under you etc.. so, no one wants to be that person.

Valerie
Quality Traffic Site[/QUOTE]

Hi Valarie,

Perhaps I am misreading you but I really do not understand why you think you should recieve a wage if you fail to sell the company's services or products. Correct me if I am wrong, but do franchisees get paid if customers do not buy their products. For instance, if I am a franchisee
of a McDonald's store and my sales are less than my expenses, I am at a loss. McDonald's will not pay me for the time I invested. Why do people think it should be different for home based entrepruerships?

[zmonique2007]

People just hate it because they are not successful with it. But for those who earn a lot from MLM, of course they love it because that means their life. In any kind of business,either internet marketing or traditional business, hard work is important to become successful.

[Rich Grads]

Originally Posted by zmonique2007

People just hate it because they are not successful with it. But for those who earn a lot from MLM, of course they love it because that means their life. In any kind of business,either internet marketing or traditional business, hard work is important to become successful.

I agree. Unfortunately, too many network markerter's are not given the proper training on how to become successful. Many upline leaders are more concerned with getting a new recruit, but then fail to teach them the required skills they need to become successful. And an improperly trained recruit is usually one that falls out of the business in their first year and becomes another MLM statistic.

This is certainly not the case on our team. We go through a very thorough and comprehensive training with every recruit that joins our organization. It's proven to assist in the retention of new associates in our company and they in turn have a much better chance of succeeding when they know "HOW" to do this business.

I'd say that the three most common reasons for failure in this business that I've seen are:

1. Lack of proper training
2. The person's own limiting beliefs about becoming successful.
3. Poor company choice

Number 2 is a biggy and one that I myself struggled with for a long time. We can be our own worst enemy when it comes to the limitations we set up in our own minds that reduce our chances of becoming successful.

I've got some great resources on my site that assist in the proper training required to become successful in this business. And if you are looking for a great program for eliminating your own self-limiting beliefs, I'd check out "The Missing Secret" by Dr. Joe Vitale. It is phenomenal. Probably the best audio program that I've listened to about correcting our thoughts that prevent us from achieving the success we desire.

To Your Success!

[rejoice]

training is key... and knowing your business model (so where your business is going)... the buck stops with you !!

[Justice44]

Originally Posted by Danny-B

IMO- MLM yeah, it is a cheap first taste into the business world. I don't know one person who really "made it". I know many claiming they were and within 2 years after swearing by the long distance, the health products, the _____. They were doing something else. MLM is like a church, someone at the top makes the most!!!

HI Danny,

All I can say is that MLM is not for most people. It takes an entreprenuerial mindset and selling skills that are suited for its prospects. The vast majority of people lack these types of skills and view it as a hobby. There are only two ways to make it in MLM:

1. Follow the company's system in exact form.
2. Learn marketing/selling skills that are reflective of many successful marketing companies.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of people in MLM do not have the mindset to make it. BTW It amazes me who every year someone regardless of their economic and social backgrounds earns six to seven figures in this business. BTW also people at the top of any profession make the most money.