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05-25-2009, 03:44 PM
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I was thinking about this some more, and trying to find some way to convince naysayers of MLM and its potential. Did you guys know Avon is an MLM company?
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05-27-2009, 07:27 PM
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#407 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by agelforums
I am just curious .. I got alot to speak about on this subject but seems most of this board hates the idea of Network Marketing and MLM.
So I want to raise a discussion on MLM.
Good or bad, everyone give me your thoughts and opinions on it.
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It's not that MLM or network marketing doesn't work. It totally works and that's why it's been around for as long as it has. The problem is people either choose the wrong opportunity for themselves, or they choose a good opportunity but then did not do the work that is required of them in order to succeed. Due to this, they then say they hate MLM or that it doesn't work. The truth is: Over the next 10 years, the U.S economy will create 10 million new millionaires…Two of the strongest emerging industries where this growth will occur are Wellness and Network Marketing. So there you have it! So choose wisely: Choose an opportunity with a simple, rock-solid product that sells itself, and can benefit a wide range of people. I use to try many different MLM opportunity and it didn't work for the reasons I mentioned earlier. I almost gave up and say, "I hate MLM." But I didn't and now I found something that works and it sells itself. I can no longer say MLM doesn't work. It so does..(I can't believe I'm actually saying this...lol). Let me know if anyone wants to know what a good MLM or Network Marketing opportunity looks like..
Last edited by pennyphang; 05-27-2009 at 07:37 PM.
Reason: forgot to offer assistance
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05-28-2009, 01:43 AM
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#408 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by The Stealthy One
James, your points are certainly valid. A word on monetization strategies: try MLM companies offer products and an income opportunity. An "MLM" company just looking to signup folks to its income opportunity is actually defined as a pyramid scheme, which is illegal. Therefore, in a true MLM company, "the people coming in at the bottom" are not actually getting scammed. Here's why: they are joining for the product, not just the opportunity.
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Hi, what I meant was that the design is very in favor of the owner of the company, not that it was actually an illegal scam.
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06-02-2009, 06:11 AM
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Hi Ive never read so much negativity. The cardinal rule is to promote a unique product that millions of people want with no competition Have a look at englandsxclub you will see exactly what I mean
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06-02-2009, 07:40 PM
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I think Networking is all over the place! When you see a movie and its good you will tell your friends, relatives and co-workers that the movie you've seen is really good! Of course they will not let it pass without seeing it right!? In that way you've already done MLM without notice and who earn from that, only the producers, actors, actresses and theaters right? But are you getting paid for letting your friends, relative and co-workers knows about the movie? So why not do some networking that you can earn at the same time?
Am not a member of any networking but am not against of everything they do. Its another way to live life to the fullest. As long as people involved are enjoying, earning and nobody get harm for what they are doing.
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06-30-2009, 09:09 PM
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if people didn't stat their MLM home business opportunity with a mindset that they will become millionaires by the end of the month... the industry wouldn't have such a bad name... i think uplines are partly to blame for telling people that they will make it and they will be rich in little to no time... it is important to let people know that they need to work, and that they need to work hard to get to a point where they are earning significant income... nothing just falls out of the sky!
the more effort you put in... the more results you will see.. and that goes wit anything in life 
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06-30-2009, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rejoice
i think uplines are partly to blame
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Fixed that.
Disclaimer... I haven't read the past 28 pages of this thread.
The problem isn't with the MLM itself, its with the claims they typically make. Any system that requires me to refer people make my initial investment back is a scam, plain and simple. If the only product to sell is the MLM...
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07-01-2009, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PsiPro
Fixed that.
Disclaimer... I haven't read the past 28 pages of this thread.
The problem isn't with the MLM itself, its with the claims they typically make. Any system that requires me to refer people make my initial investment back is a scam, plain and simple. If the only product to sell is the MLM...
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what are you talking about man? it doesn't matter if you refer people to join as distributors or refer people to buy the product... it's still a referral
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07-01-2009, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rejoice
what are you talking about man? it doesn't matter if you refer people to join as distributors or refer people to buy the product... it's still a referral
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I meant that if the only real way to make money is to refer others who in turn have to refer others it is a classic Pryamid Scheme.
There are many MLM that are legit (mostly, they have been targets of the FTC a few times.), such as Avon, Tupperware, etc. They actually have a product to sell and you can make your initial investment back without referring people.
A while back someone posted a link to an MLM that sells $5 videos or some such nonsense. It cost over ~$1000 to join and ~$500 of that goes to your sponsor and the other ~$500 goes to the person above him. and some misc amount goes to the person who started the company. This system is clearly a pryamid scheme because the product being sold has no real value compared to the initial investment.
The FTC has some cheat-sheet somewhere to help evaluate a company as legit or not... its mostly arbitrary numbers (like if more then 70% of your projected income comes from referrals) however.
Anyway MLM are so hated because the most of the ones hocked online are scamish, the ones your friends try to beat you into submission to join in real life are just a little better. IMHO of course.
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07-01-2009, 04:45 PM
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I believe mlm is most hated because people have referred to it as a scam such a quixtar, which isn't. And most people just started to believe the lie!
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07-01-2009, 07:23 PM
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Ignorance is not bliss in mlm.
Usually the people who have bad things to say about it are not educated in the value of it.
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07-01-2009, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PsiPro
I meant that if the only real way to make money is to refer others who in turn have to refer others it is a classic Pryamid Scheme.
There are many MLM that are legit (mostly, they have been targets of the FTC a few times.), such as Avon, Tupperware, etc. They actually have a product to sell and you can make your initial investment back without referring people.
A while back someone posted a link to an MLM that sells $5 videos or some such nonsense. It cost over ~$1000 to join and ~$500 of that goes to your sponsor and the other ~$500 goes to the person above him. and some misc amount goes to the person who started the company. This system is clearly a pryamid scheme because the product being sold has no real value compared to the initial investment.
The FTC has some cheat-sheet somewhere to help evaluate a company as legit or not... its mostly arbitrary numbers (like if more then 70% of your projected income comes from referrals) however.
Anyway MLM are so hated because the most of the ones hocked online are scamish, the ones your friends try to beat you into submission to join in real life are just a little better. IMHO of course.
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ah... so you were talking about companies that use the MLM business model and don't actually have a product... yeah that's dodgy!
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07-04-2009, 08:21 AM
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I don't know that MLM, Direct Sales or Network Marketing (w/e you call it) is actually what's hated by most people. I do know from experience that most of the people involved in these kinds of businesses are just flat out noobs. I don't mean that in a negative way, just a term to explain their understanding of basic communication, confidence and relationship development skills.
Anyone can be successful with an MLM, but they must grow personally, or they will spin their wheels and quit in a matter of months if not weeks. It's the aftermath of their failed attempt that turns people off, in my opinion.
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