Why Is MLM So Hated?

[chickenjoe]

Nicely said future skills!

[DPayne]

Nice poser website. How long has that been under construction? Can't afford a good web designer?

For one, most of our clients are rich old men, we have no need to do business online because its all done locally in person. We do not "generate leads" with some lame ass emotional hype about a testimony how you made $4000 in one day. We do not sell an opportunity. We have a service for our clients.

When you go to McDonalds, does a "district representative" come up to you and say "would you like a hamburger, and oh yeah check out this opportunity to sell our hamburgers, you see I was poor, broke, and on my last leg when my director showed me this opportunity to sell mcdonalds hamburgers, you can do it too and when you get a big downline, you can retire! First you must give me your info so I can call you w/my director on the line and let you hear this wonderful business opportunity"?

Then your email is added to some jack legs "autoresponder" and you get daily emails and phone calls to discuss the biz opportunity. If they swindle you into getting on a live conference call to learn more, you discover it is flooded with other "reps" giving their testimony, but most of them haven't succeeded, they are just talking about their director's success. Then when they have you thinking w/emotions, not logic they throw in the sense of urgency. "GET ON THE GROUND FLOOR!" and you buy it. Then you are trained to do the same exact thing. How in the hell is that a business? Its a system where the blind leads the blind, the idiots lead the idiots and you "generate" or purchase "leads" which are people who just filled some boxes out on your site which looks identical to the other 100,000 people who joined. Sounds like a stellar business model to me.

I know not all network marketing is like this, but a MAJORITY are set up this way. This is why I say it is for poser entrepreneurs. Before you go attacking my website, which we view as unneccessary to our success, you need to take a step back and realize that there is a difference between selling a product/service and an opportunity. Ive never been sold an "opportunity" when I went to lowes, mcdonalds, applebees, to buy a car, to a hotel, to a condo, etc. You get the picture. Last time I checked, everyone considered those legit businesses. So we can agree on those as an example of a business. Go ahead, give me the MLM parrot talk of "How much would it cost to open a McDonalds franchise? around 500k - 1M!!!!!!" Right, and opening a franchise is different than a MLM. The number one reason being the Franchisor is EXTREMELY picky when approving a franchisee. In MLM this is not the case, you will get signed up if you allow it, even if you are blind, poor and have absolutely zero business experience. The second reason MLM is not franchising is because as a franchisee, you can't sell more franchises to your customers. I can't go buy a McDonalds franchise and have the same rights as the franchisor. It doesn't happen like that except in the MLM fantasy world.

I'm done ranting. It's time to go to bed, I've got to get up early to tell everyone my rags to riches story about how I sold vitamins and energy drinks and got rich. Oh yeah, I have to show random pictures of lambo's and ferraris over a clip of some douche speaking about financial freedom and "the life you've always wanted." That helps ad to the emotional state of mind, so people are easier to sign up. I'm goign to be doing this all while sitting on the beach at St. Thomas in the USVI which is just the nick name for my home office in my double wide 100% financed trailer which just depreciated 40% last year. "Baby once this MLM business takes off like that man said, we'll get us a real house."

AGAIN I SAY MLMS ARE FOR FAKE ENTREPRENEURS.

[vacationofwealth]

That is why when you join a home based business you need to be marketing a stand alone product. A produc that is sold and has sold without the oppty attached to it. So many of these companies market useless software or ebooks to just keep legal. The product needs to have tremendous value. Hype is also a big problem . The promise of fast riches. Listen the same percentage of home based business that fail are seen in the brick and mortar business world. The pizza shop around the block has had 4 owners in 4 years and they all have lost money. Is that a scam? No. You need to do your research. And if you are going to be in the direct sales networking field you better know your product, industry, sales system , and comp plan back ward and frontwards.

[nocci01]

There is not a single MLM company that is the best for everybody. Everyone has their own taste...just let it be. There are a lot of people who hate MLM (at least for now) and there a lot who love it (at least for now). People change their minds all the time. One day your favorite is this company that everyone just has to join...and the one that you'll never quit. Sure enough 10 months later you've quit and jumped ship. Wow, all I have to say is never tell people this is your last MLM...because it might not be. Never tell people you'll never join MLM because you might. Never tell people I'm doing MLM forever...unless you truly are!!! Somone has to do MLM...just like any other profession or business.

[Future Skills]

That is why when you join a home based business you need to be marketing a stand alone product. A produc that is sold and has sold without the oppty attached to it.

I agree with you, most people fail in MLM because of this reason. The company i am attached with doesn't offer products they offer telecommunications services that people use everday. Many of my customers are not interested in the opportunety but love the fact they can save money on their phone calls.

So I ask is this a scam for me to make money while people just pay their monthly phone, staelite tv, voip, wireless and internet accounts.

AGAIN I SAY MLMS ARE FOR FAKE ENTREPRENEURS

our company has an endorsment from Donald Trump (check out my site to hear for yourself) love or hate the guy, he has credibility in making money I think i'll agree with him.

futureskills.acnrep.com

[MacCassity]

Ok, here is my two cents. Honestly, on this subject, I think my two cents is worth about a quarter...lol, the reason is, I teach others about this EXACT same subject.

One of the MAIN reasons MLM is so hated is...(drum roll please) those who are involved in it, DO NOT, and I repeat DO NOT give the proper respect and value to the relationships they have developed. What I mean is, the way folks are INTRODUCED to MLM's is downright laughable most times and really innapropriate at others. You see, if you value someone, you don't invite them to a "secret meeting" where you can't tell the other person what the nature of the meeting is. In addition, the folks involved in MLM (as some have pointed out) don't have much business experience and are simply touting an IDEA or POSSIBLE windfall versus a solid business model.

MLM's can work, there is no question. You can be successful. Heck, some of them offer very unique products that you can ONLY get through the distributors, but, the reality is, MLM's have a bad name, basically because of the tactics of the company itself, and the quality of the people involved who are distributors/reps of the company. One of the things I personally teach is how to resolve these issues. The principles that can help ANYONE build and nurture quality relationships can work with MLM, but the person has to be open to listening. All too often, their lack of business saavy leads them to simply listen to the plan the company is touting. LISTEN UP: The company IS MOST LIKELY playing a numbers game!!! They are gambling on if enough folks do something enough times, it will lead to some sales. Multiply this effect thousands upon thousands of times, and it adds up to real money. If you are involved in an MLM though, and you really believe it can be successful, you must treat people the right way. I recommend starting with a book called "How to sell Network Marketing Without Fear, Anxiety, or Losing Your Friends." By Michael Oliver This book is something I recommend to anyone who is either getting started in MLM, or has been involved for awhile and not as successful as they want to be.

For those of you out there, I do not necessarily tout MLM's, but I want to make a point...MLM is as legitimate of a business format as opening a flower shop down the street. Those who have operated PONZI schemes have certainly tarnished the premise, but, do your research. A PONZI is not an MLM...Good luck to all!

[nocci01]

AGAIN I SAY MLMS ARE FOR FAKE ENTREPRENEURS.

Really? I've been able to earn well over $2,000 a week in MLM...and so have many of my friends...people that I know. The funny thing is...most of the people that I work with in this industry live in homes that are bigger than houses in the same subdivision owned by doctors, lawyers, dentists, etc. How in the world do you think they live that lifestyle if it was fake? Just because there are a bunch of "fake it till you make it" MLMers out there...doesn't mean that people don't succeed in the industry. There are fake entrepreneurs in every industry including doctors and attorneys. You can't tell me there aren't doctors and attorneys out there that aren't scamming to enrich their own lives. Dentists and other professionals too.

Everyone's entitled to their opinions. I'm in MLM...proud of it...and I am not a fake entrepreneur...no matter what anyone says.

BTW, calling someone a fake entrepreneur makes you very legitimate! You only fuel the fire...and if you think about it...I'd rather be in MLM while most people hate it...then when they start to like it!!! Research Paul Zane Pilzer...a noted economist...research Warren Buffet and see why he wouldn't mind owning 100 more MLM/Direct Sales companies.

[vacationofwealth]

Listen all of the world is based on a pyramidal structure. And all of the world is based on a survival of the fittest structure. From the govt to corporations to the food chain. Those that are hungry, strive to learn, and become masters can make money with any opportunity they join. MLM or direct sales models are in place because the company doesnt want to spend the millions of dollars it takes to advertise. They would rather dole out that responsibility to distributors to give them an oppty to make money. It is a win win situation. The reason people fail in this industry is they are sold on hype and then quit too soon. There is a learning curve to this business just like with any business. Even a franchise business. You will be lucky to be in full profit in 5-6 years.

To be successful here you better hone your skills in marketing, prospecting, and closing. But again it is an equal playing field in Direct Sales, it is just how bad do you want it?

[Future Skills]

Vacationofwealth,

I mostly agree with you, however i would personally not get involved in a venture that is going to take 5-6 years to turn a profit. I'm sorry but I would not participate in any business traditional or MLM if there isn't the opportunity to make money now.

[sk8ramp]

These threads are everywhere and they are all created in order to give MLM people a way around posting spam. It is a clever way for them to keep pitching their products without offending people because they are just having a conversation in an old thread. I would think more people would realize this and just let them die.

This thread for instance was started by someone name "agelforums". Then post number 12 was from a member named BenBale saying how he/she had found an MLM that really worked great named "agel.com". Coincedence? No.

MLM people know that their predecessors started threads long ago so they join forums and search for MLM and then revive the thread.

MLMs are scams, and we should unite and boycott all MLM threads to end the spam. Don't give them any more easy ins to forums.

[thisworks]

Honesty is KEY!

I don't know... Although there is truth to alot that has been
said in this thread, I still do not believe in blanket statements
that say that all MLMs are scams.

Recently, I have been reminded of how important it is to
like what you do, and above all else, be able to be completely
honest about it.

When you honestly like something, believe in it, and see the value
in it for yourself, and others, then you find yourself talking
about it naturally!

I always think about how much passion I have when I am telling
someone about a top notch resturant that I have eaten at,
or how good my steak was at the resturant!

Most might be scams, but there is hope!

[enriquerojas]

In my opinion. MLM are just lazy people that don't know how to make a decision in life and need to be backed up by other lazy people.

I tested this campus since I am a online entrepreneur, and honestly I can make more money by building up traffic and creating a funnel for converting that traffic.

What all MLM have in common? They said you can make huge money, you don't need to sale anything. In the case you don't need to sell anything you need to sign other people (witch you need to convince in other words you need to sell them a subscription).

Ok let's start a MLM is very simple You payme $9.99 and you become a Director. You get access to a higher forums and I give you your own profile page. You get 50% of all your sign ups, 30% of your sign ups - sign ups, and 10% of your sign ups, sign ups, sign ups. Sounds good? Make a life-time income.

LOL

[nocci01]

In my opinion. MLM are just lazy people that don't know how to make a decision in life and need to be backed up by other lazy people.

I tested this campus since I am a online entrepreneur, and honestly I can make more money by building up traffic and creating a funnel for converting that traffic.

What all MLM have in common? They said you can make huge money, you don't need to sale anything. In the case you don't need to sell anything you need to sign other people (witch you need to convince in other words you need to sell them a subscription).

Ok let's start a MLM is very simple You payme $9.99 and you become a Director. You get access to a higher forums and I give you your own profile page. You get 50% of all your sign ups, 30% of your sign ups - sign ups, and 10% of your sign ups, sign ups, sign ups. Sounds good? Make a life-time income.

LOL

15 Years Left
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Your opinions are the reason why you'll never make the big money in MLM. Not all people in MLM are lazy...only the ones who don't make any money or the ones who haven't figured out how to build it properly. I started earning over $2,000 a week in MLM since I was 18 years old and have never had to work a job to pay for bills or recreation. You want to make big bucks in MLM you're going to have to bust it!

I've seen people who made it work and people who didn't. Same company, same products/services, same compensation plan...just different mentalities and how they work the business. There are only 2 ways you get paid in MLM...sell products/services or recruit. If you stop selling products and services...you will stop getting paid...MLM isn't about becoming managers...it's about retailing and prospecting. What's the big deal about recruiting...every entity or organization has to recruit and continue to do so no matter what. The NBA continues to recruit, churches, government, schools, hospitals, car dealerships...pick up a newspaper pal...recruiting is the only way anyone or anything can ever grow! Hey I understand you don't have the skills or the desire to learn yet...and maybe you never will...but keep this in mind...where else are you going to find a profession where you can increase you standard of living without decreasing your quality of life? Doctors can't do it. If they want a better standard of living...they have to decrease their quality of life...more patients, more surgeries, more time away from home. Same is true for attorneys and pretty much all traditional businesses. In network marketing, you can increase your standard of living and quality of life at the same time. Hey if you want to get customers for your business by yourself...you deserve that pay...if you want to earn residual overrides on efforts of other people...leveraged income...that's what MLM offers. It's unique because unlike Corporate America, you start at the top and fill in the bottom.

That's good that you make more money getting traffic to your site. If you really learn how to choose the right MLM company and how to build it the right way, you'll make much more than your website will. Too bad you suck at MLM.

"They say you don't have to sell anything?" No wonder you and them aren't making any money and have to talk trash about MLM. If that's how you and all the other failures want to justify why MLM doesn't work...go for it. How in the world do you expect to get paid or make any money for doing nothing? If this were true, these MLM companies wouldn't need you or anyone else to market for them.

BTW, MLM is simple...too bad most people don't know how to keep it that way. If you learn some skills you wouldn't have to deal with so much rejection. Asking someone if they want to make money from home is a sure way to get a "no." Too bad you don't have the will to learn how to do rejection free prospecting. Too bad you'll never see the big money in MLM.

Go to any bookstore and pick up a book called "Beach Money" by Jordan Adler or magazines called "Success From Home" or "Success." You'll read about many people who made it to the big pile of money. Too bad so many people will never live up to their full potential bashing on the one profession that is the last bastion of free enterprise. All the experts are saying that North America is in a delusional capitalist mindset...keep it up and you will end up in a soup line and have no choice but to accept food stamps! Don't take my word for it, listent to the message at 15 Years Left or pick up some books such as "The World is Flat" by Thomas Friedman or "No Time" by Heather Menzies.

Keep LOLing about MLM all you want. One day you'll be at the bottom of the food chain when all the white collar jobs and middle management jobs disappear from N. America. Only job sectors that are growing are fast food, drive-thru windows and other menial jobs like greeters at superstores. The only way you're going to make a dime of the East is to sign them up in MLM...oh wait, maybe they'll sign you up and you won't know what hit you. Good luck with your broke mentality!

Keep the comments coming. You're educating more and more people about why MLM is a great way to become a millionaire without the pain of long hours, long commutes, time away from family, stress...I'll keep posting links to testimonials of people who have made it to the big bucks in our industry. In fact, here's one where you can see testimonials: Welcome to DaniJohnson.com! - Transform Your Life, Explode Your Sales and Skyrocket Your Income Today!

[nocci01]

These threads are everywhere and they are all created in order to give MLM people a way around posting spam. It is a clever way for them to keep pitching their products without offending people because they are just having a conversation in an old thread. I would think more people would realize this and just let them die.

This thread for instance was started by someone name "agelforums". Then post number 12 was from a member named BenBale saying how he/she had found an MLM that really worked great named "agel.com". Coincedence? No.

MLM people know that their predecessors started threads long ago so they join forums and search for MLM and then revive the thread.

MLMs are scams, and we should unite and boycott all MLM threads to end the spam. Don't give them any more easy ins to forums.

Maybe you're right Sk8ramp...MLM is everywhere and it's not going away. MLM is growing and is here to stay forever. Die...please, people like you give the Rich Networkers every reason to stick around. 15 Years Left should explain why you need to just swallow your ego and go ahead and change your thinking about MLM...might as well join a good one now before you throw away another opportunity to make the big bucks.

MLMs are not scams. If they were, the FTC would shut them down. You just don't have the skills or mindset to be successful in our industry. Don't bash it because you can't win at our game. It's typical human nature to bash something you can't win at so it's understandable. If you do win in MLM, you won't think this way...but wait...with your mentality, you'll never make it in our industry. Boycott MLM all you want...we love for people like you to sit on the sidelines and watch us drive exotic cars, live in mansions, and travel the world.

[enriquerojas]

I am not going to quote all that. But answer me something. If this biznas are so successful why they go out of business? Why the get after 1 year they are no where to be found?

Why every 3 months MLM people have a venture if they are so successful?

Now like I said. I will build a forum whit different level access. You will have legal documents for download, content, etc. How you make money pay me $9.99 a month, plus you need to sign 4 people to get a bonus, a nice portfolio page with your own marketing profile. You will get 50% of the 1st level sign-ups of your 1st level. You will get 30% on the 2nd level of your sign-ups, and then 10% of any 3rd level and below.

Those this sound great to you or it sound like I am a smart a$$ making you pay me for nothing?