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02-29-2008, 08:03 PM
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It is a sad but true fact that most people do not have a plan B. With many people living beyond there means a loss of a job could have a detremental effect on most families.
Network Marketing offers people a Plan B.
Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump have openly stated in there book that they both reccommend Network Marketing
Lets take a quick look at the facts and fiction of network marketing.
Fiction: Network marketing doesn't work.
Fact: Network Marketing is estimated to have 34% market share on retail products and services in North America, estimated to have an annual turnover of 800 billion dollars.
Fiction: Network Marketing is illegal/ pyramid scheme.
Fact:In 1979 the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) ruled that Amway was not a pyramid, that its revenue was generated from the sale of its products, and the FTC acknowledged network marketing as a legal and efficient distribution system. Network Marketing exploded in the next decade.
Fiction: Everyone can get rich with MLM?
Fact: While true that MLM does offer huge rewards for top performers, It is also true that on average only 3% of people who get involved in MLM will succeed.
Fiction: Involving yourself in MLM means you have to push your product/service and the opprorunety on your friends.
Fact: With technology forever changing there are now great ways to market your product or service.
I have been in networking for 6 years and have seen many in my team have huge success.
The reason most people fail in MLM is not understanding marketing. If you make smart marketing choices you should see instant success.
In short i currently run a very successful "Traditional Business" and I Network Market.
After all all Traditional and MLM are based on the same philosphy there has to be a buyer and there has to be a seller. So no matter how a company goes to market "traditional or MLM" it is still selling.
I personally believe MLM gets a bad rap purely because people percieve it to be a get rich quick Scheme. MLM still needs to be run like a traditional business.
I know this though, the day I sell or retire I stop earning money from this business, With MLM i will still earn a residual income.
Thanks for reading my novel.
Ash
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03-01-2008, 12:53 AM
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#242 (permalink)
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Nicely said future skills! 
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03-01-2008, 01:36 AM
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#243 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by r2rprofits
Nice poser website. How long has that been under construction? Can't afford a good web designer?
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For one, most of our clients are rich old men, we have no need to do business online because its all done locally in person. We do not "generate leads" with some lame ass emotional hype about a testimony how you made $4000 in one day. We do not sell an opportunity. We have a service for our clients.
When you go to McDonalds, does a "district representative" come up to you and say "would you like a hamburger, and oh yeah check out this opportunity to sell our hamburgers, you see I was poor, broke, and on my last leg when my director showed me this opportunity to sell mcdonalds hamburgers, you can do it too and when you get a big downline, you can retire! First you must give me your info so I can call you w/my director on the line and let you hear this wonderful business opportunity"?
Then your email is added to some jack legs "autoresponder" and you get daily emails and phone calls to discuss the biz opportunity. If they swindle you into getting on a live conference call to learn more, you discover it is flooded with other "reps" giving their testimony, but most of them haven't succeeded, they are just talking about their director's success. Then when they have you thinking w/emotions, not logic they throw in the sense of urgency. "GET ON THE GROUND FLOOR!" and you buy it. Then you are trained to do the same exact thing. How in the hell is that a business? Its a system where the blind leads the blind, the idiots lead the idiots and you "generate" or purchase "leads" which are people who just filled some boxes out on your site which looks identical to the other 100,000 people who joined. Sounds like a stellar business model to me.
I know not all network marketing is like this, but a MAJORITY are set up this way. This is why I say it is for poser entrepreneurs. Before you go attacking my website, which we view as unneccessary to our success, you need to take a step back and realize that there is a difference between selling a product/service and an opportunity. Ive never been sold an "opportunity" when I went to lowes, mcdonalds, applebees, to buy a car, to a hotel, to a condo, etc. You get the picture. Last time I checked, everyone considered those legit businesses. So we can agree on those as an example of a business. Go ahead, give me the MLM parrot talk of "How much would it cost to open a McDonalds franchise? around 500k - 1M!!!!!!" Right, and opening a franchise is different than a MLM. The number one reason being the Franchisor is EXTREMELY picky when approving a franchisee. In MLM this is not the case, you will get signed up if you allow it, even if you are blind, poor and have absolutely zero business experience. The second reason MLM is not franchising is because as a franchisee, you can't sell more franchises to your customers. I can't go buy a McDonalds franchise and have the same rights as the franchisor. It doesn't happen like that except in the MLM fantasy world.
I'm done ranting. It's time to go to bed, I've got to get up early to tell everyone my rags to riches story about how I sold vitamins and energy drinks and got rich. Oh yeah, I have to show random pictures of lambo's and ferraris over a clip of some douche speaking about financial freedom and "the life you've always wanted." That helps ad to the emotional state of mind, so people are easier to sign up. I'm goign to be doing this all while sitting on the beach at St. Thomas in the USVI which is just the nick name for my home office in my double wide 100% financed trailer which just depreciated 40% last year. "Baby once this MLM business takes off like that man said, we'll get us a real house."
AGAIN I SAY MLMS ARE FOR FAKE ENTREPRENEURS.
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Daniel J. Payne
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03-01-2008, 10:09 PM
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That is why when you join a home based business you need to be marketing a stand alone product. A produc that is sold and has sold without the oppty attached to it. So many of these companies market useless software or ebooks to just keep legal. The product needs to have tremendous value. Hype is also a big problem . The promise of fast riches. Listen the same percentage of home based business that fail are seen in the brick and mortar business world. The pizza shop around the block has had 4 owners in 4 years and they all have lost money. Is that a scam? No. You need to do your research. And if you are going to be in the direct sales networking field you better know your product, industry, sales system , and comp plan back ward and frontwards.
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www.getgrntoday.com
Virtual Assistant Closes All My Sales
Real Product+Real System=Huge Results
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03-03-2008, 02:48 AM
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There is not a single MLM company that is the best for everybody. Everyone has their own taste...just let it be. There are a lot of people who hate MLM (at least for now) and there a lot who love it (at least for now). People change their minds all the time. One day your favorite is this company that everyone just has to join...and the one that you'll never quit. Sure enough 10 months later you've quit and jumped ship. Wow, all I have to say is never tell people this is your last MLM...because it might not be. Never tell people you'll never join MLM because you might. Never tell people I'm doing MLM forever...unless you truly are!!! Somone has to do MLM...just like any other profession or business.
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03-03-2008, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by vacationofwealth
That is why when you join a home based business you need to be marketing a stand alone product. A produc that is sold and has sold without the oppty attached to it.
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I agree with you, most people fail in MLM because of this reason. The company i am attached with doesn't offer products they offer telecommunications services that people use everday. Many of my customers are not interested in the opportunety but love the fact they can save money on their phone calls.
So I ask is this a scam for me to make money while people just pay their monthly phone, staelite tv, voip, wireless and internet accounts.
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Originally Posted by DPAYNE
AGAIN I SAY MLMS ARE FOR FAKE ENTREPRENEURS
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our company has an endorsment from Donald Trump (check out my site to hear for yourself) love or hate the guy, he has credibility in making money I think i'll agree with him.
futureskills.acnrep.com
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03-03-2008, 02:17 PM
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#247 (permalink)
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Location: Woodbine, Maryland
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Ok, here is my two cents. Honestly, on this subject, I think my two cents is worth about a quarter...lol, the reason is, I teach others about this EXACT same subject.
One of the MAIN reasons MLM is so hated is...(drum roll please) those who are involved in it, DO NOT, and I repeat DO NOT give the proper respect and value to the relationships they have developed. What I mean is, the way folks are INTRODUCED to MLM's is downright laughable most times and really innapropriate at others. You see, if you value someone, you don't invite them to a "secret meeting" where you can't tell the other person what the nature of the meeting is. In addition, the folks involved in MLM (as some have pointed out) don't have much business experience and are simply touting an IDEA or POSSIBLE windfall versus a solid business model.
MLM's can work, there is no question. You can be successful. Heck, some of them offer very unique products that you can ONLY get through the distributors, but, the reality is, MLM's have a bad name, basically because of the tactics of the company itself, and the quality of the people involved who are distributors/reps of the company. One of the things I personally teach is how to resolve these issues. The principles that can help ANYONE build and nurture quality relationships can work with MLM, but the person has to be open to listening. All too often, their lack of business saavy leads them to simply listen to the plan the company is touting. LISTEN UP: The company IS MOST LIKELY playing a numbers game!!! They are gambling on if enough folks do something enough times, it will lead to some sales. Multiply this effect thousands upon thousands of times, and it adds up to real money. If you are involved in an MLM though, and you really believe it can be successful, you must treat people the right way. I recommend starting with a book called "How to sell Network Marketing Without Fear, Anxiety, or Losing Your Friends." By Michael Oliver This book is something I recommend to anyone who is either getting started in MLM, or has been involved for awhile and not as successful as they want to be.
For those of you out there, I do not necessarily tout MLM's, but I want to make a point...MLM is as legitimate of a business format as opening a flower shop down the street. Those who have operated PONZI schemes have certainly tarnished the premise, but, do your research. A PONZI is not an MLM...Good luck to all!
Last edited by MacCassity; 03-03-2008 at 02:19 PM.
Reason: mispelling
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03-03-2008, 06:57 PM
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#248 (permalink)
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MLM will Survive!!!
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Originally Posted by DPayne
AGAIN I SAY MLMS ARE FOR FAKE ENTREPRENEURS.
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Really? I've been able to earn well over $2,000 a week in MLM...and so have many of my friends...people that I know. The funny thing is...most of the people that I work with in this industry live in homes that are bigger than houses in the same subdivision owned by doctors, lawyers, dentists, etc. How in the world do you think they live that lifestyle if it was fake? Just because there are a bunch of "fake it till you make it" MLMers out there...doesn't mean that people don't succeed in the industry. There are fake entrepreneurs in every industry including doctors and attorneys. You can't tell me there aren't doctors and attorneys out there that aren't scamming to enrich their own lives. Dentists and other professionals too.
Everyone's entitled to their opinions. I'm in MLM...proud of it...and I am not a fake entrepreneur...no matter what anyone says.
BTW, calling someone a fake entrepreneur makes you very legitimate! You only fuel the fire...and if you think about it...I'd rather be in MLM while most people hate it...then when they start to like it!!! Research Paul Zane Pilzer...a noted economist...research Warren Buffet and see why he wouldn't mind owning 100 more MLM/Direct Sales companies.
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03-05-2008, 02:20 PM
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#249 (permalink)
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Listen all of the world is based on a pyramidal structure. And all of the world is based on a survival of the fittest structure. From the govt to corporations to the food chain. Those that are hungry, strive to learn, and become masters can make money with any opportunity they join. MLM or direct sales models are in place because the company doesnt want to spend the millions of dollars it takes to advertise. They would rather dole out that responsibility to distributors to give them an oppty to make money. It is a win win situation. The reason people fail in this industry is they are sold on hype and then quit too soon. There is a learning curve to this business just like with any business. Even a franchise business. You will be lucky to be in full profit in 5-6 years.
To be successful here you better hone your skills in marketing, prospecting, and closing. But again it is an equal playing field in Direct Sales, it is just how bad do you want it?
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www.getgrntoday.com
Virtual Assistant Closes All My Sales
Real Product+Real System=Huge Results
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03-05-2008, 09:17 PM
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#250 (permalink)
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Vacationofwealth,
I mostly agree with you, however i would personally not get involved in a venture that is going to take 5-6 years to turn a profit. I'm sorry but I would not participate in any business traditional or MLM if there isn't the opportunity to make money now.
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