[xalimx]

Originally Posted by Check-m

MLM IS A GOOD THING!
It teaches you financial education and gives you financial experience for a low price.
When franchises first started everyone thought that it was a scam that was doomed to be justified. Now look at it. People who first got into the franchise of mcdonalds and starbucks are now millionairs.
People who say MLM's are scams are just the average middle class investors who have no real entrepreneur experience or background.
This website defines entrepreneurship very clearly
'"one who undertakes."' The term Entrepreneur is used to refer to anyone who undertakes the organization and management of an enterprise involving independence and risk as well as the opportunity for profit."
An MLM provides this to the beginning investor.

good explanation and good reason you've ... MLM is a very good thing if you really understand about it and have entrepreneurship on yourself. but mostly persons who join them just look at "earn" things in the future, not the other side ( a good thing such as experience + financial freedom etc).

Only entrepreneur successful on MLM coz they really know what they should do, and didn't...

am i right about this?

[travelmo]

I think MLM is a great thing! Since being involved in MLM for the past 4 years, I've learned sooooooo much. I've been able to gain skills in communicating with others on a business level and I've also been able to teach others to duplicate to help them succeed.

Usually people that don't like MLM are either scarred from being burned by a bum company or just like living their average lifestyle. There are many multi millionaires that were made donig MLM. It's a great vehicle for the "average" person to either make extra money or get ahead and really make some financial changes in their life. I applaud any legitimate MLM company that has a system that helps everyone, not just the top money earners. I'm involved in a company that was made for the "average" person. If you're above average, then of course you're in the money. I believe if you open your mind and do your research, people will have a different outlook on MLM.

[carrera87]

Originally Posted by Check-m

MLM IS A GOOD THING!
It teaches you financial education and gives you financial experience for a low price.
When franchises first started everyone thought that it was a scam that was doomed to be justified. Now look at it. People who first got into the franchise of mcdonalds and starbucks are now millionairs.
People who say MLM's are scams are just the average middle class investors who have no real entrepreneur experience or background.
This website defines entrepreneurship very clearly
'"one who undertakes."' The term Entrepreneur is used to refer to anyone who undertakes the organization and management of an enterprise involving independence and risk as well as the opportunity for profit."
An MLM provides this to the beginning investor.

Amen!

i think you are absolutley right, if you want to be successfull in MLM do everything to get it right just like with entrepeneurship and all other thing in life.

[4CraveEnergyDotcom]

Originally Posted by Karen

The only ones getting rich are the ones who are actually doing something.

Karen

Your pay raise is effective when you are

[4CraveEnergyDotcom]

Originally Posted by WanganRunner

People don't like MLM because it isn't a real goddamned business.

At it's best, a legitimate MLM turns you into a salesman, not an entrepreneur. At it's worst, it's a pyramid scheme.

It doesn't help that MANY of the MLM's out there are wholly illegitimate, but even the honest ones still shouldn't be what a real entrepreneur wants to hear about. Running a business and being a salesman aren't the same thing. If I wanted to have "limitless potential for profit!!!OMG" and NOT really run my own show, I'd just be a goddamned financial advisor or something. It's for people of limited vision.

I also can't stand marketing people, honestly. If I can make money without having to convince people of things they wouldn't otherwise accept without me, everyone else can too. Vultures.

It is over $30 billion in the U.S. and growing

[4CraveEnergyDotcom]

Originally Posted by Check-m

MLM IS A GOOD THING!
It teaches you financial education and gives you financial experience for a low price.
When franchises first started everyone thought that it was a scam that was doomed to be justified. Now look at it. People who first got into the franchise of mcdonalds and starbucks are now millionairs.
People who say MLM's are scams are just the average middle class investors who have no real entrepreneur experience or background.
This website defines entrepreneurship very clearly
'"one who undertakes."' The term Entrepreneur is used to refer to anyone who undertakes the organization and management of an enterprise involving independence and risk as well as the opportunity for profit."
An MLM provides this to the beginning investor.

Ideas go through cycles. Ridicule 1st and then become self evident.

[4CraveEnergyDotcom]

Originally Posted by Lex

its a scam

Not all network marketing companies are legit I admit. However, the good ones distribute products (many of which are unique and excellent) face to face instead of advertising. The advertising $ is paid in commisions. The last time you promoted a movie or restaurant you did network marketing. You just didn't get paid for it. End of story.

[4CraveEnergyDotcom]

Originally Posted by asuperincome.com

Hi All new here, and love the subject of MLM also studdying it for university so this could get interesting, also I am involved in it (check signature).

I know people in 3 different MLMs here in the UK as well as myself, and all 3 of us earn more than our upline. So that dispells the miff that the only people to profit from MLM are the ones "who got in" first

Most MLMs are structured so the rewards go to the ones that do the work.

I have a friend in a company called kleeneze And he earns a lot lot lot more than anyone in his upline, because he has introducted, trainned and developed a lot more people than his upline did, as well as retailing a lot of product. Of course his upline earn from him, but he earns more.

My mlms is also structured in the same way, the ones who work the hardest reep the rewards.

And if your in MLM and your upline earns more, that may well just be because they work harder than you, the amazing thing about MLM is that most sponsors/upline will work with you to help you earn more than them, for two reasons, 1) some of us are genuine and actually like to help people achieve there goals, and 2) if someones downline is earning a lot, they will tell people and they will join and work hard, and if downline is earning lots, the upline will be earning too.

If you do a search for kleeneze you will see that this is a catalogue MLM, and the catalogue works very well here in the UK, (i used to do it so i know) people just put it in the letter box, and collect it off the doorstep with orders averaging a pound a catalogue, so £100 in orders from 100 cats distributed, in this mlm company, a large slice of peoples income is from retailing the product. Helps to prove that MLMs do move product, this is what makes MLM and pyramids different.

In my mlm company I earn a lot more from my lottery customers than I do from my downline at the moment.

Obviously the idea of MLM is to recruit people as well as to retail, and some focus more on recruitment, and some more on the retail.


Did you know that 80% of all direct sales are done through MLM?

Sorry researching MLM for my uni final year project, so enjoy discussions like this.

But not all MLMs are pyramids, and any that are pyramids are normally closed down quickly by the DSA etc.

A few key things you need to do to succed in MLM.

1) Pick a company that is suitable for you. ( a product you could recommend)
2) Pick a sponsor you get on with, someone who will help you.
3) Actually do something. MLM unlike work invloves YOU doing stuff, unlike a job where you turn up and get paid, with MLM you need to work it to see the rewards. This can be a slow process at first but the idea is that over time, you earnings grow as time spent working it decreases.
4) Dont quit, If you do it will never happen.

Speak to many people on MLM and all will have different opinions. Some will have done it and failed, ask them what they did, try to work out why they failed, then ask people who are doing well what they do? Then work out what you need to do, to be successful.

Goal setting does help, small, medium and long term goals. If you achieve one, reward yourself. We all goal set we just dont know it, we aim to pass that driving test, or to get that job etc.

MLM isnt just about making money, its about making friends, helping people help themselves. MLM is all about meeting new people, and its great for self development,as well.

Seriously dont get people who knock MLM look at the alternatives,

A JOB - retirement age goes up and up 60,65,70,75??? And not much of a state pension anymore either after all that. Plus most jobs are pryamids, one boss who earn loads, and the others who earn little.

Your own business- 2/3 of all new business fail, wages to pay, taxes, laws ti comply with,premises,stock,advertising,stress etc.

MLM isnt right for everyone, but seriously the nation needs re-educating, most of my tutors at uni went MLM - thats that pryamid selling ilegal stuff. If it was why would large national banks suggest it, why would tony blair recommend it, why would there be an international body called the DSA regulating it, and why would there be a large number of people earning good to amazing income from it?

If you are prepared to work hard for a few years MLM is great, If you want to get rich for nothing, erm play the lottery or marry a millionaire.

ANYWAY rant over

All the best

Dave.

Great post Dave! My belief comes from my products and how they help people, it makes this business go.

[4CraveEnergyDotcom]

Originally Posted by myorganicfamily

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MLM has its good & bad like any other business in this world.
It's what ONE CHOOSES to do with one's life is what's IMPORTANT.

The industry has changed enough in recent years to be worth a second look. What used to be a fly-by-night business of scammers now boasts a fair share of publically traded multinational giants and well-established privatly held companies with revenues in the billions. As a result, direct selling now deserves serious consideration as a possible way to create a second, home based income stream for yourself.

Direct Selling is...

Direct selling, network marketing, multilevel marketin, party-plan marketing, and one-to-one marketing are all variations of the same theme. Direct selling is the sale of a consumer product or service, person to person away from a fixed retail location. Generally speaking, the person doing the selling is an independent contractor.

In addition to selling your product, you also recruit others to sell products for you. These so-called "downstream" distributors pay you a percentage of their sales - just as you pay a percentage of your sales upstream to the person who recruited you. The idea is to recruit so many people that an increasing amount of your income comes from their efforts, not your own. Indeed, in network and multilevel marketing, recruiting others is often a primary point of business.

The reason you recruit othere is so that you can earn passive income from their sales and obtain new customers for your products or services. In truth, the best passive income in direct selling or network marketing comes from satisfied customers reordering products or services you previously sold to them. If the entire business is focused on the recruitment of more sales representatives - and NOT on the selling or consumption of services or products - something is amiss.

What Direct Selling is NOT!

-not about getting you to buy a ton of products up front - which is pyramiding and is illegal.
-not a get-rich-quick business.
-not expensive to get into. (usually less than $300)
-not for the lazy.
-it's not necessarily about roping in your family and friends. If your supplier seems to focus more on getting you to recruit buddies and relatives rather than on sellling and introducing the quality products or services it is providing, you're in the wrong company.

...
Ryan
MyOrganicFamily.com
ONE Group, Independent Representative

Very good post!!!!!!!!!

[4CraveEnergyDotcom]

Originally Posted by SAMG

Ok, Damnit I Can't Hold Out Anymore. I Have Been Reading This Thread For About 15 Minutes Now, And I Wasnt Going To Reply, But The Stupidity Of This Thread Is Over Whelming.

I Came Home One Day To Find Out That My Fiance Had Purchased A Herbalife Kit. Yes Herbalife, Im Sure Most Of You Have Heard Of Them. They Charged Her $179.00 For This Damn Kit. After I Did My Yelling And Complaining, I Told Her To Make It Work, And See What She Could Do With It. Well In Some Free Time I Decided To Read The Books, Contact The Lady She Was Dealing With And Ask Her Some Questions. In Which, Her Answers Confirmed Why I Hate Mlm.....

Herbalife First Make A Hefty Commission Just Off You Buying The Startup Program. Then They Encourage You To Sell To Your Friends, Family, And Maybe People In Your Local Area. Well I Don't Know About You, But I Don't Believe In Mixing Business With My Personal Life. I Would Not Want To Sell A Product For $50 Bucks To My Sister, Just To Find Out Itdoesnt Work And Im The One That Sold It To Her.

Then They Want You To Get Hooked On The Products Yourself. (so They Can Make Money Off You Too.) I Asked Well Why The Hell Would I Go On The Products, I Dont Have A Single Damn Pound To Loose. I Go To The Gym 3-4 Times A Week, Why Would I Need This Crap. Well She Couldnt Give Me An Answer, Besides To Try The Products, Get My Fiance On Them, And Everyone We Knew. Its A Joke.

We Never Did It, I Threw The Damn Kit In The Trash. I Dont Believe In A Business Where Your Familly And Friends Are Meant To Be Your Customers. So I Leave With One Last Thing To Say, Screwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Mlm

If you started a shoe store tomorrow, who would you notify?

[Cristiand]

Brian Tracy Prosperity Consciousness Article
The starting point of all riches is the development of a prosperity consciousness. You must become a financial success in your thinking long before you achieve it in your reality. Both poverty and riches are the result of a state of mind, and the most important single step you ever take on the road to wealth and financial independence is the decision to change your thinking, to impress into your mind an unshakable belief that you can and will achieve your financial goals.

[Phillip Cisneros]

I belong to an MLM that I trully believe in. When I was introduced to it I was just as sceptic about it as the next person but in the end I had madeup my own mind that I could succeed in this business. I believe that the key to MLM is to share a product that you trully believe in, one that has first worked for you. Once that happens you will be fired up, ready, and confidant to take on the world. In my MLM I don't rely on family and friends to sell it, I am willing to share it with anyone, even strangers. I am most interested in sharing it with people who are open minded, health minded, and entrepreneurial. Those candidates are tipically understanding of what I'm trying to do and then I let the product do its thing. The product is a Antioxidant fruit juice beverage called Monavie. I started drinking it as a customer who enjoyed what it was doing for my health. I then started to give it to my family because I wanted them to enjoy the health benefits as well. Once I commited to purchasing the product regularly anyway I decided to become a distributor so I could buy it wholesale. From that point I just started to tell people how I was feeling by drinking it and they became interested as well. Little by little people started to buy bottles from me and then started to inquire about becoming distributors all on there own. When that occurs I show them how to become members, give them some helpful information , good advice, and point them in the right direction. I call my downline about twice a week to see how they are doing and they email me regularly. We have become a team of people who are slowly growing but our patience is paying off. Everyone always expects to get rich in an instant. The reality of life is that most of us need to work hard to become successful. MLM is all about what you put into it. If you think failure you will fail. For someone like myself who already has a nine to five job Monavie was an easy way for me to improve my health and wealth while maintaining a regular life. I don't stress about it at all, I work my normal job that pays my bills and then everything that comes from Monavie is just gravy. At the pace that my Monavie business is growing My gravy will soon become my true source of income. . The people who speak bad about MLMs are simly people who have failed and given up. Never give up and you will be fine.
Phillip Cisneros

[Tim Draayer]

This is really a futile discussion. Nobody is going to convince anyone anything different than they've already decided to believe. However, to add to the discussion -- I think there are some things people miss when it comes to network marketing.

In reality, you aren't buying your own business. You are more of an affiliate however you CAN build a business which is your own creation AROUND that companies opportunity. Meaning there is alot more to your business than selling that companies product OR recruiting people into the business.

What I like about Network Marketing is that it teaches people the essential business skills needed to be successful. I found this out on day one, when I signed up and got started in my own business. I love Network Marketing because the journey has taught me a lot and I've made good money.

Its when people start thinking or buying into a lot of the hype about instant thousands and becoming happy through riches, that they fall pray to what some might consider a darker side of the industry.

There are some companies out there who only want to scam you. Heck, that describes a lot of companies in corporate America in general. But for the most part, from the successes I've learned of and seen for myself .... there is a lot to gain from getting involved.

[perdesign]

I like my job as a salesman,it can be more fun than a manager or boss.

[Nigami Enterprise]

MLM is exactly that Multi Level Marketing how can you call yourself an entrepreneur when all you are is a salesman for somebody else.

The worst thing about people involved in MLM is they look at every new person they meet not as a friend but as an opportunity.