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Old 03-15-2007, 04:31 PM
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30days, you'll be surprised at how most mlm'ers are introverts, including myself. I just let the friendships/relationships develop on their own. Eventually they will ask what you do. Now I do just fine, considering I used to hate mlm about 6 yrs ago.

I'm assuming you like to do 100% of your business online since you say you're not a "people person"

now THIS is why I don't like MLM's... I wonder how many mlm EMPLOYEES make fake friendships just to try and sell you some stuff. I mean it's one thing to be a dirty car salesman during business hours whenever someone walks on the lot, but the idea of making "friends" to be able to mlm you is just unsettling. If any one of my new friend prospects start trying to pitch an mlm, I immedietly write them off. I wish I had am mlm "OFF" like the bug spray...

I mean, who likes just meeting someone, they happen to mention their program and ask if you would like to be a member, you say "I don't know" of "I'll think about it" and that is just like feeding a stray dog (which I do all the time by the way, haha) they start bombarding you with emails and instead of saying "hi" when they see you in the hallway, they say "hey, did you get a chance to look at that DVD?" or get to work early so they can be the first in your inbox... "Hey, so what do you think?"

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Old 03-15-2007, 05:29 PM
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Alright .. good posts .. and its exactly what I thought everyone would say.

Just pure hate .. no facts .. no examples .. no testimonials about how you didnt make it ..

So ... Im going to ask again .. Why is MLM so hated?

Dont say spam .. dont say scam .. dont say people at the top ..

I want facts .. truths ..

Because believe it or not .. EVERYTHING in this world is network marketing and you just dont realize it
Go to the BBB website and look ANY of them up - they're inundated with claims.
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Old 03-17-2007, 02:37 AM
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[QUOTE=BenBale;46255]i dislike the idea of MLM, only people getting rich are the guys at the top!

Tho there is one business i have taken a liking to and thats www.agel.com there products are really good and will be a really big seller.

I am thinking of signing up just to get wholesale access to there products and set up a proper business in my country selling the product.

I know some people that have mad alot of money from agel. MLM is a legit business. The people that do well are the ones at the top, but they are at the top because the worked their butts off. Every person is the top of their own pyramid. MLM's fit every definition of the word business and entrepreneurs are a person who organizes and operates a business or businesses, taking on greater than normal financial risks in order to do so. I my self am not involved in any MLM's, but I know several people that make extra income with them and they do not work at them too much.
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Old 03-17-2007, 02:44 AM
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simply ask the people in this post that push mlm's how much money they are making with it right now. Hell ask them how much they have made ever.

that will tell you alot about them, and the mlm they push.
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Old 03-18-2007, 06:35 AM
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You people are misinformed and uneducated about the direct selling industry.
First WanganRunner, your langauge shows your character and I personally wouldn't get involved in ANY business with you. I own a "traditional" business. You know, a building, employees, thousands of dollars a month in overhead ect. Network marketing, mlm, is a business if you treat it like one and not a hobby. The problem is, because of the low cost to get involved makes it easy for people to bail out. While there are some bad companies out there, (As with anything) there are a lot of good, legitimate ones. Get rich quick? No. In fact, you may not get rich at all. But you could make enough money for a car payment, mortgage payment, money for college tuition, let your wife stay home ect. And you can do it from home, without a lot of overhead ect. How important would that be to some folks? Not to mention the tax advantages. I would suggest doing your home work more before running off at the mouth about something you know nothing about.
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Old 03-18-2007, 09:08 AM
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here is a good thread that I started about quixtar
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Old 03-18-2007, 02:08 PM
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I love mlm, but I didn't always.

I did online mlm for about a year and it was ridiculous. You pay the people above you for your membership and then pay the people on top to do the advertising for you. I did nothing! How can you make money for doing nothing?

All I did was pay my money and get a little bit less back. I spent about twice as much as I made, but I entered into the realm of internet marketing just as it was about to loss it's effectiveness with the introduction of spam filters. I had access to the accounts of my sponsor (because I was also working for him) and I know that he was making about $5,000 for about 4 months (putting in around $1,000 in advertising and fees), then it started to fall apart and now we both make nothing.

Now I do Pampered Chef. I get paid more than an affiliate to cook and entertain people. I make more money faster than all of my websites and I have some control over how much I make and I don't have the headaches. Yes, the income potential isn't as high as for your own start-up, but I don't have half of the headaches. Plus it is good practice for when (and if) I do want to start my own business.
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:22 PM
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Legitimate Vs Illegitimate
As a matter of fact that MLM is a business format in selling in which it cuts down the cost of the products by passing away the middleman such as exporter, importer, wholesaler, agent, retailer...Also, the cut down of packaging, advertising and marketing fee, etc. are very important in costing. Nowadays, as a smart consumer, everybody is looking for high quality products at reasonable price, with that traditional selling channel, it is impossible to work out high quality at reasonable price since those middleman have to survive for livings.That's why network marketing or so called MLM comes up.In order to cut down the cost, business of this format can have the flexibility in costing.Good company will give the best products to consumers that makes premium quality like "All of the Good,None of the Bad" in ingredients.If the quality is good, there is no need to pay high advertising fee that save up the money to go to the distributor who share the premium products among family and friends.So distributors are happy to get pay while sharing premium products with friends.Finally it creates a WIN-WIN-WIN situation that the customers are happy to get the premium products to use at reasonable price, the distributors are happy to get paid while sharing from the company (not from the customers), the company is happy to provide highest quality products with reasonable returns and will also put more efforts in Research & Development to provide the the public more innovative and scientific proof products so as to enforce the public trust.
It is important to talk about the Compensation Plan in the lights of this good model.Many companies in the world reserve lots of money for the company, not to the distributors.Some of them are still in pyramid system.Pyramid system means,you have to get the products from your uplines and they gain money from you; even though you are hard-working, you will never earn more money than the uplines;head-counted money paid-out.....To give you a legitimate concept is that legitimate network marketing company must not be head-counted; everybody should buy products from the company directly; the more you work, the more you will be paid, you can earn more money than your uplines!!So if you choose a MLM company, you must be careful to read this.Also the percentage breakdown is of critical importance.Since you work hard in AA Company, the percentage at the beginning might be very attractive, however, you have do bear in mind that a healthy business should be a long term and everlasting business, if the larger your group, the less you will get, then no matter how hard you do the business, you will get a little money.If company NS offer you remunerate compensation plan at deeper level at fair percentage, you should see the PAID-OUT commission of the company in past years.Some companies with long history but just payout not much than short history, then you know the plan makes you poor.
To conclude, only a few multi-national companies will operate in this good business model well that makes all parties happy.I am glad that I have chosen the best one not in terms of money rewards but the Force for Good corporate culture is what I love most!
Hope I expalined you some misunderstandings on network marketing.As this is a 3W-model, MLM will continue to grow quickly and will be more popular than before although not all the products can be run in this model.
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I totally agree with you. I am olso invoved in MLM and in two companies and I love it. And i most say it is not a pyramid and you can make more than your upline if you want to and a lot of people do not even realize that,
most jobs are set up as a pyramid, but they just like to jump on mlm and say it is, and some people have never even been in it. Like for example, my mother -in- law owns a daycare center and she is at the top (picture a pyramid in your mind) then there is her kids who are administrators, next is teachers who get a certain amount of pay and nothing else, next assistant teachers who get less, then cook who get less then ass teachers and so on. But the point is no one in that organization gets more or can get more money than my mother-in-law because she owns the School and she is also the director. So you see what I'm saying most jobs are pyramids but people never see it like that. There is owner, managers,supervisors,workers and even sometimes the cleaning people get less than the regular workers, but depending where you are on the pyramid that is as much as you can make and as far as you can go.

So almost all jobs are set up as a PYRAMID, look into it.
But MLM you get promoted over short period of time if you work the system, there is always a level to earn more. But not with a regular job unless you the BOSS.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:48 AM
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Network Marketing is good for people who want to succeed in life! The main point is "how to find the right company?" is the art to learn how to choose the best for you and your family.LONG TERM BUSINESS is always my first criteria.Is a member of Direct Selling Association means legitimate?Is the COMPENSATION PLAN global and fair?Any return policy? etc. DON'T BE ATTRACTED BY SHORT TERM HOT MONEY, please study clearly before you start so as not to waste energy from one company to another.Well, I found the right one in my life and I will NEVER switch!!
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As a matter of fact that MLM is a business format in selling in which it cuts down the cost of the products by passing away the middleman such as exporter, importer, wholesaler, agent, retailer...
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This is an absolute total and complete LIE.

Every MLM system has multiple middlemen, that's called the "downline." The whole profit in MLM systems is to build up multiple layers or levels of middlemen. YOU are the middleman in MLM. Get real. Are you in an MLM where you don't earn any money on any sales? Really? If you earn one penny on sales then you're the middleman. If your upline earns one penny on sales then they're the middlemen. That is the definition of middleman, something you need to read about.

I've never read such baldface lies. I'm anti-MLM for many reasons, but one is the ignorance of business principles they pass off. Galaz, you owe us all an apology for your post.
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:00 PM
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You people are misinformed and uneducated about the direct selling industry. ... I would suggest doing your home work more before running off at the mouth about something you know nothing about.
you dodged every question. you were trained well by your upline.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:48 AM
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Ok, Damnit I Can't Hold Out Anymore. I Have Been Reading This Thread For About 15 Minutes Now, And I Wasnt Going To Reply, But The Stupidity Of This Thread Is Over Whelming.

I Came Home One Day To Find Out That My Fiance Had Purchased A Herbalife Kit. Yes Herbalife, Im Sure Most Of You Have Heard Of Them. They Charged Her $179.00 For This Damn Kit. After I Did My Yelling And Complaining, I Told Her To Make It Work, And See What She Could Do With It. Well In Some Free Time I Decided To Read The Books, Contact The Lady She Was Dealing With And Ask Her Some Questions. In Which, Her Answers Confirmed Why I Hate Mlm.....

Herbalife First Make A Hefty Commission Just Off You Buying The Startup Program. Then They Encourage You To Sell To Your Friends, Family, And Maybe People In Your Local Area. Well I Don't Know About You, But I Don't Believe In Mixing Business With My Personal Life. I Would Not Want To Sell A Product For $50 Bucks To My Sister, Just To Find Out Itdoesnt Work And Im The One That Sold It To Her.

Then They Want You To Get Hooked On The Products Yourself. (so They Can Make Money Off You Too.) I Asked Well Why The Hell Would I Go On The Products, I Dont Have A Single Damn Pound To Loose. I Go To The Gym 3-4 Times A Week, Why Would I Need This Crap. Well She Couldnt Give Me An Answer, Besides To Try The Products, Get My Fiance On Them, And Everyone We Knew. Its A Joke.

We Never Did It, I Threw The Damn Kit In The Trash. I Dont Believe In A Business Where Your Familly And Friends Are Meant To Be Your Customers. So I Leave With One Last Thing To Say, Screwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Mlm
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it's just silly....MLM companies playing on people's fears, moral sins and insecurities

oh well
Thats just not MLM's though. A lot of companies do that. What about insurance companies?

I don't mean to defend MLM's, but a lot of people make false generalized declarations against them like "its a scam" "pyramid scheme" or "ponzi scheme"; without actually knowing legal definitions of those types of businesses and finding out if the actually companies fall under these illegal practices or not.

Here in the United States for any company to operate it has to follow laws and regulations. Network marketing companies fall under much more scrutiny. I'm not saying that none of them are scams, but most of them are completely legitimate businesses who have just been falsely accused by people who didn't have what it takes to be successful with it; and didn't understand it.

Misunderstandings, I think that word alone could fix a lot of the problems in the world if people realized it.

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Wow.

Stop resurrecting this thread. It should be gone.
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