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    Cool Lookin for a new host

    I had a recent fallout with my current webhost provider. Kind fo ironic because just teh other day i was sort of talking them up :P

    Regardless, after spending 2 years as a manager in a custeomr service related environment their is some certain things taht I dont tolerate when purchasing a service.

    SO i will be passively searching a new web host, im not in a big rush just curious what sort of offers I will get. I am also driven to support the YE community.

    If you have a hosting company and are looking for new business then I will consider switching services to you, here is a bit fo a rundown of my hosting situation.

    -I currently have 5 domains on this certain hosting package
    -2 are active one is about to be active and the other s just sitting thier atm
    -one of them is an "adult based" website name but has NO content NOR will it have content. If i ever decide to put content up on it I will be transferring it to the host i use for my adult sites.
    -I am interesdted into learning about domain parking also if you have info about this whether it can be done with your service or not would also be helpful.
    -I NEED TO PAY BY PAYPAL

    PM with questions and offers. Or you can reply here with offers whichever is best suited for you!

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    Hello there,

    I run a web hosting company http://www.psihost.com/, our plans are more money for less space because we do not oversell our servers and keep load at a lower level to maintain high reliability and high speeds. (See http://www.hostingspeeds.com/).

    For your requirements:
    -I currently have 5 domains on this certain hosting package
    We allow you to host unlimted sites as long as you stay without our TOS (http://www.psihost.com/v4.5/web_host...f_service.html) with regard to CPU/RAM usage, and honestly we have clients running 30+ sites who are within the usage limits, so 5 should be fine.
    -one of them is an "adult based" website name but has NO content NOR will it have content. If i ever decide to put content up on it I will be transferring it to the host i use for my adult sites.
    Adult content is fine so long as it stays within out TOS. We state requirements on CPU/RAM usage to insure your heavily visited dynamic site will not negatively impact our other clients.
    -I am interesdted into learning about domain parking also if you have info about this whether it can be done with your service or not would also be helpful.
    Yes, we do allow you to park domains and again unlimited domains.
    -I NEED TO PAY BY PAYPAL
    We accept paypal.

    We use cPanel for our control panel software, if you are not familiar with it, you may try our demo. More information can be found here: http://www.psihost.com/v4.5/web_host...el_cPanel.html

    If you have any questions or need anything please drop me a PM or give me a call at 1-800-474-1627

    Thank you,
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    interesting that your limiting people on their cpu/ram usage. bandwidth and disk space is a lot more understandable

    Explain further pelase.

    Also you didnt inclue a price.

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    Not to get off topic, but your hosting company website is pretty bad. You have spelling mistakes (handel, handle) and for some reason personal hosting and dedicated servers are both perfect starting places. Not to mention you provide no information about the physical location and setup of the servers, uptime, backup, maintenance, or any information about the company itself. I personally would never buy from your hosting company if I happened to come across that website. But hey, what do I know.

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    jasaunders, So as not to hijack this thread, I have a thread for discussion and suggestions for my site. Website Feedback I would really like to hear more about your suggestions and comments. To comment on what you brought up.

    Uptime: We have a few behind the scenes trackers and we recently changed services, our current provider is http://www.serviceuptime.com/users/s...cs.php?Id=4860.
    However this site, http://www.webhostingstuff.com/uptim...ebhosting.html has been tracking our uptime for nearly a year, I'm not sure why as we never registered with them and just recently started an advertising account. As you can see 100% uptime for the past 11months (since they started tracking).

    For physical location and setup of the servers, maintenance, and backup.
    Our physical server setup
    2 Dual Core 2.4 GHz
    2048MB Ram
    100mbps Uplink
    RedHat Enterprise 4
    PHP 5
    MySQL 4.1

    We make nightly backups and store daily, monthly, and yearly backups. We do keep off-site backups as well for disaster recovery.

    All of our servers are located in either ThePlanet or EV1Server's (now ThePlanet) data centers in Huston, TX.

    Most of this information used to be included on the page, however we found it got little to no traffic, indicating most of our off the web customers were non-technical oriented. I will work on getting more of it included for future visitors tho.

    As for information about the company, you are correct, this should be on there and appears to have been neglected in the last layout upgrade I will work on getting this back up as well.

    Thank you for your feedback, I would love to hear more (in the other topic ).

    Quote Originally Posted by ducriscorp View Post
    interesting that your limiting people on their cpu/ram usage. bandwidth and disk space is a lot more understandable

    Explain further pelase.

    Also you didnt inclue a price.
    There are limitations on disk space and bandwidth for each account. However at one time we offered much larger quotes only to find that users would then expect they could run sites that were resource hogs. If you run a website which is transferring 100s of GB of data a month, typically the shared hosting environment isn't the ideal situation.

    Of course this is all really speculative, a site which is has a large amount of scripting will take a much larger chunk of the resource pie then a site which is mostly static HTML or client-side scripting. In all honesty, most clients do not ever reach what is near the limit we set for them however we clearly define that there is a limit.

    Because our plans consist of lower space and bandwidth, we actively monitor the accounts for overages. When an overage is approaching we will do not typically automatically suspend. Instead if there are only a few days left until the bandwidth is reset (the 1st of the month), we will credit the site for the bandwidth to keep it running the month then inform the contact on file. If this becomes a recurring problem would need to ask for the client to either upgrade their package.

    Prices can be flexible if you need customized space or bandwidth allotments.
    -Our personal plans start at $6/month for 1.2GB of disk space and 13GB of bandwidth. (Average Server Load:60-70% of capacity)
    -Business hosting plans start at $15/month 1.5GB of disk space and 35GB of bandwidth. Business hosting plans are kept on lower density servers then personal plans, hence the price difference in comparison to disk space allotment. (Average Server Load:40-50% of capacity).

    Extra disk space or bandwidth can be added to an account for sites which require more transfer or more space.

    Thank you,
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    so how does your company plan to stay competitive when other companies offer 300gb of space and 3000gb of monthly transfer for the same or elss price? for example godaddy who offers 5gb space and 250gb b/w for only 3/mo. You say your trying to ensure your servers stay quick, but i havent heard any complaints about the speed of godaddy servers.

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    basically what im saying is, whats going to make me want to switch to you?

    its not prices. its definately not the disk space or bandwidth. you want to put even more limits on my sites that other companies do not in order to retain performance that other companies offer without the limiters.

    You need to refine your business plan. Keep in mind none of this is meant negatively towards you, its meant to assist you in evolving your business!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducriscorp View Post
    that other companies offer without the limiters.
    Unforunatly this is not true.
    Look at the some the uptime for other majors companies, all high, however they all have downtime, and it is almost always becasue of the burden placed on the servers.

    GoDaddy: http://www.webhostingstuff.com/company/GoDaddycom.html
    HostGator: http://www.webhostingstuff.com/company/HostGator.html
    1&1: http://www.webhostingstuff.com/compa...ternetInc.html
    BlueHost: http://www.webhostingstuff.com/company/BlueHostcom.html

    I am active in the Hostgator forums, and daily people come on to complain about their servers going down, being slow, or services going down. This rarly happens becasue of a 'hacker' or malicious user, most typically is the server just coughs up a hairball.

    Take a look at those plans offering $3/month for 300GB of space and 3TB bandwidth from GoDaddy. Most sites will never, ever come close to using that much space, those numbers are ploys to bring you in. Look at the numbers from HostGator, http://www.hostgator.com/shared.shtml, Their largest plan is 200GB of space and 2TB of bandwidth for $14.95. People come to the forums every day complaining that they were suspended becsue. Its always CPU usage, they always have tons of bandwidth and space left. I'm just not playing the overselling game, i'm selling you only what I can provide at the price I can afford to make money and provie the level of service I want to.

    Also take into account the price of the servers vs. what they are offering. GoDaddy runs its own datacenter I belive. HostGator uses ThePlanet (http://www.theplanet.com), as do I. Go there and attempt to make a server that would make a profit off of selling the sized plans they are promoting, you simply can't do it. This practice of overselling is common place, and really not bad if handeled well, however if all of HG or GoDaddy's accounts used the space they are paying for, they would either be suspended for one reason or another, or would simply not have the space avaliable to them.

    There are many more articles on this subject around the internet. Always be warry of giant plans.
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    when you have a site that is hosting videos and streaming videos its not unrealistic to use numbers like that. for example one of my sites needs to allocate space for an average of 500 videos at around 50mb each which will be streamed through the users browser and could see upwards of 200,000 unique visitors and 2,500,000 page views per day. thats a good chunk of bandwidth and about 30gb of webspace. I considered getting a dedi for it but really its nto worth it if you can pay a 10th the price and just use a companies hosting service.

    I wouldnt say its not realistic for a website to make use of that webspace/bandwidth imo

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    For streaming video you are correct it is not unrealistic, however that is a very small niche market. Streaming media takes a toll on bandwidth however is relatively light on CPU usage. In fact if you look over some of the posts at HG's forums those are the only types of sites we admit may make the bandwidth quota without violating CPU usage.

    However, that is a specific market, people who come with forums or other software which is processor intensive, really have no chance at 200,000 unique visitors and 2,500,000 page views per day. Even though you can fit your site into a GoDaddy package, your size site really isn't meant for the shared hosting environment. If you are looking for a cheap dedicated server, ThePlanet just got it its economy class servers again today you can get a $69 one there with 80GB of space 512mb of ram. A baby of a server.
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