[mjohns]

once again anotther 'million dollar' idea many are increadibly crap, don't get me wrong i wish you the best of luck but i cant see this idea taking off.

If you like the million dollar phenomanon at lest develop on the original idea like how about buying up blocks of advert on other site's and then selling thos pixels on hmmmm.

[artdrops]

Originally Posted by mjohns

once again anotther 'million dollar' idea many are increadibly crap, don't get me wrong i wish you the best of luck but i cant see this idea taking off.

If you like the million dollar phenomanon at lest develop on the original idea like how about buying up blocks of advert on other site's and then selling thos pixels on hmmmm.

Once again, yet another person associating the words "milion dollar" with Alex Tow's accomplishments. Let it go! He does not own the words "million dollar". It was used before him and will certainly be used after him. GET OVER IT and Let's move on, shall we!!

Just because others and their ideas do not conform to peoples pre-described way to use the term "million dollar" there has to come a time let it go. Just let go. Just let go. Just let gooo.

[Bemyownboss]

Art-

Hey man great idea. Forget all those who say it won't work or isn't original. And I agree that these guys talking about exotic cars are nuts, noone is going to say anything except that a fancy car is being wasted by putting ads on it. I think that you have some great ideas. Great innitotives, and best of luck with every thing, let me know if I can be of any help.

Jason

[impressive]

I like this idea, except 6 inch decal on a van is hard to read, why not try $99.00 ads on front and back of van and 15 inch decals on bottom half of van and charge about $300.00 for this and maybe 30 inch decals on the top half of the van and charge something like $500.00 per, Im in the sign business and I can tell you that people due pay for ads like this. Also instead of a one time fee make this a month charge. But you have to make sure that this van is on the move all the time, outs some rims and audio system in it and hit the car shows, where you know people will want to see this van,, just my idea, I know it might not be what your going for but its and idea

[Bemyownboss]

Originally Posted by impressive

I like this idea, except 6 inch decal on a van is hard to read, why not try $99.00 ads on front and back of van and 15 inch decals on bottom half of van and charge about $300.00 for this and maybe 30 inch decals on the top half of the van and charge something like $500.00 per, Im in the sign business and I can tell you that people due pay for ads like this. Also instead of a one time fee make this a month charge. But you have to make sure that this van is on the move all the time, outs some rims and audio system in it and hit the car shows, where you know people will want to see this van,, just my idea, I know it might not be what your going for but its and idea

Hey Art-
That's not a half bad idea. I mean would take a little extra money for a alright system and some rims. maybe try 10 inch instead of 6 inch.(I know your main objective is to get people to the Advan.com site which will happen anyways. You could get a specialty license plate also, that would be sweet. Hey I'll come down and drive around with ya and hit up some car shows HAHA..

Impressive-
some great impressive and innovative ideas, I am sure Art will take a look at them..

[Brennan]

Yeah I agree If I was going to advertise on your van I wouldn't want a small 6inch ad. I would be looking for something that actually might be visible lol. Offering different packages would be a good idea because it offers a lot of variety. You offer different sizes and different spots on the car and have different prices for different packages, Hope were being of some Help .

[Admarto]

Have you researched how well advertisements do on vans? On cars in general?

How do you know you can just slap a bunch of ad stickers on a van and expect anybody to care enough to read the main website and go there when they get home from work 9 hours later? I wouldn't look at it. It wouldn't be interesting to me.

It seems like your counting on publicity to carry this stunt through, like "Wow, he's selling ads on his van, let's tell everybody about it! It's such a unique idea!" What if that doesn't happen? What if nobody cares? You can't count on an ideal situation to form on it's own.

I'm assuming that you've already got the van anyway, so it's not like you're spending a lot of money trying to do this. I think you're more at risk of putting your heart and time into it and not getting anything in return, although doing things like this is probably your passion, so it's not like you'll regret it if you fail, right? But if you knew it wasn't going to work, would you keep going or do something better? That's one of the important questions here.

You need statistical information to back your theories up. Don't get too far ahead of yourself, one step at a time prevents you from ever missing a step or stepping too far.

You should start experimenting with the ads right away, or at least track down some information. Does your van have your website on it now? How many hits does that bring your website? Put fake ads on somebody else's car and test how many hits a certain new site gets. Throw some ads on that site, and split the money with the car owner if you make any. You're going to have to know ahead of time how exactly you're going to make the stickers, and how they will stick to the car, and all that junk. If somebody, especially an early customer, is going to pay 100 bucks for a six inch sticker, they won't be satisfied unless you know exactly what you're doing. Imagine saying to your first customer "I can't guarantee that this work, but I've got a good feeling about it!"

Or: "I've done a considerable amount of research on advisting on vehicles. My research shows that a van of this size, with a sticker of this size, and an attraction rating of 7.5, will draw in....."

Perhaps you are completely leaning in the direction of just getting famous, like The Million Dollar Homepage, and making your money through your fame. If that's the case, I hope you know everything about how to become famous, how to sell, how to influence people, how to contact the people at the top and get them to listen to you, ect... It must be extremely complicated to get your idea on TV and all over the net unless you're actually providing value already, right?

You get the point.

I just wanted to share my thoughts. I know you're going to have a blast no matter what, and it's very possible that you've already done or considered everything that I've talked about.

Good luck!

[artdrops]

ADMARTO, I understand that you are trying to help, but, one thing you should not do is assume what I have or have not done just because I haven't layed out all of my plans on this forum. I would never layout EVERYTHING on a forum.
Now if you are wondering have I implemented certain things, did research etc.. just ask those certain questions, do not assume. Yes, I know everyone has opinions but yours seem to have a negative tone like "how the hell can he do it this such'n and such a way". The way you say it leads me to ask a few questions to you -
You have AD in your name so have you actually done something like this before? How do you know for sure that this idea won't work and that I won't receive anything in return. Who are you to know any of this until you've actually tried?
(This is not the first business I've ever had)
Ads have been placed on vehicles before. I happen to be a graphic designer so the "stickers" are no problem. And I do believe this will get attention, you can't tell me that you would not look at it. Everyone gets curious, I know this.
Also, one thing about Alex Tow (*sigh*), one again - Just because it says The Million Dollar - in it does not make it a reference to him. He does not own the words and he certainly did not expect to become famous from his idea or that he would influence anyone. Move on.
Research is ongoing through out the life of a business, but yes of course I'm doing it. I already have a few of my clients interested in the idea. You truly have no idea how many steps I've taken so once again DO NOT ASSUME, just ask questions to get info first before making statements you really do not know about. Thank you tho, have a great day, try something different yourself, test your abilities, your limits and your skillset, believe me I've been there.
By the way, I do appreciate everyones suggestions and help, even yours Admarto.
Jason, thanks man.

[Admarto]

Oh, I didn't mean to offend you man! Sorry if I did. I know you wouldn't share all your plans on the forum, and I know that I really only have an inkling as to what all you're doing with this idea.

I read your post and site and immediately posted my thoughts. Nothing I say can damage you, so I figured as long as I'm actually writing about something, there's a chance that I could help. That's what forums are about anyway, right? It's not limited to geniuses and mind readers only, anybody can contribute, and anybody can ignore what they don't like or don't need.

You didn't have to defend yourself, because I didn't mean to make it seem like I was attacking you or your idea. You've covered everything that I talked about. That's great. I'm not going to respond to all the false things you've said about me or things that you assumed that I assumed. Forward is the only direction I'm interested in moving. Anything that doesn't help me get there will be left behind.

The AD in my name is pure coincidence. Thanks for everything. I hope everything is well between us. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing your van covered in ads some time soon! May the force be with you...

[artdrops]

No offense, just making my rebuttal. Everything is well.
THIS FORUM IS LIMITED TO GENIUSES AND MIND READERS ONLY! lol