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Old 06-26-2005, 08:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

I have recently launched a outsourcing services marketplace to buy and sell services. I was exploring various ways to advertise and market the website. This week, we are going to hire a professional service provider to promote our website in search engines.

What do you think about email marketing?

Some companies offers opt-in list of 1000's of users for a cheap price? Do you think its a scam..

Please send your views or any other cost effective marketing methods which can be utilized to market the website without anything to do with SPAM...
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Re: Need serious help with marketing

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What do you think about email marketing?

Some companies offers opt-in list of 1000's of users for a cheap price? Do you think its a scam..

Please send your views or any other cost effective marketing methods which can be utilized to market the website without anything to do with SPAM...
Hrmmm email marketing that doesn't deal with spam.. Well the problem with opt-in lists is that most people either forget or dont even remember opting to get emails from a list or company. Which is why most people consider it to be spam. Do you like it when you get spam emails? I know I dont. I would say that the people that 'opted in' dont like it either. Most opt-in lists come from companies that offer free things such as magazine subscriptions or something where people have to supply an address or email address. They then sell the names/contact info to other businesses who then resell them as opt in lists. The person who signed up for the free gift only entered there email to get the gift, not emails from hundreds of different companies who bought there email address. Thats my feelings on opt in lists that are purchased.

However, if you set up a subscription on your website to give subscribers either emails of updates or newsletters, than this would be a good way to get repeat customers. Or even in your agreements/contracts/policies that must be agreeed upon by your clients, have a line that says that there email address will be entered into a database with all other clients and they may recieve emails fom you about new updates or other potentially useful information. This would then cover you by having it in writing that all your clients agree to get emails from you so that you can not be considered as a spamer and have your email addresses blocked from different email hosts.

I hope that helps somewhat. For some good website marketing ideas, head over to SitePoint Forums, www.sitepoint.com/forums and search around for what you can find. There are a ton of people on that board that know a lot more than me or a lot of us here about marketing or email marketing specifically. Definitely check out the Business/Legal Issues section of the forum, this will probably be your most help.

Good Luck!
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Thanks a lot for your feedback. We offer both buyers and service providers with an email notification section on their home page from where they can opt-in or opt-out from any non-compulsory emails sent from us.

These are some of the current marketing strategies we are using to promote :

1. Using yahoo overture to get some traffic
2. Word of mouth
3. Using free advertising in some scenarios
4. Starting up our search engine optimization
5. Banner advertising
6. Trying to find partners to co-promote
7. Sending press release to all the metro and local newspaper


Once again thankyou for your kind feedback.
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ppanwar,

Please keep us updated on how your marketing efforts are doing for you.

What's working best for you so far?
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So far google adwords has worked the best in bringing us customers.


I am using these pay per click programs...

- Adwords
- Overture ( out of $100 spent, only 1 registration)
- Search123 ( just started)
- goclick

Also doing banner advertising through advertising.com

Currently, I have hired some SEO consultants. Lets see if they can optimize our website.

There is a lot of competition for websites like this. I am plannng to start affiliate program... If any ideas, feel free to post
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ppanwar,

First let me say congratulations for admitting you need marketing help. Many people can’t seem to do that and there begins and ends their success in marketing.

Marketing is not a line item on a budget or something that should be outsourced or handed over to an agency.

We tell our friends that the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT thing that they should know about marketing is that they need to be the Master of their own marketing.

No one is more passionate about your business, your customers your industry then you are. No one can possibly know more about your customers, business and prospects then you do.

So, why hand off the most important job in your business to someone else?

You have to be the Master of your own marketing and you need to make it your TOP priority. Not anything else. It should be what you spend most of your day doing and finding other people to do the task work. With out marketing you are out of business.

We always say, “If growth is the goal, marketing is your only option.”

With that being said, let’s talk about your situation a bit.

Email is a highly effective marketing tool. But doing email marketing effectively is difficult. “Bigpund” is right on the money with the comments about email marketing and its relationship to spam. Any time you buy an opt-in list you are going to spam people.

We don’t recommend that. Giving away information and giving value first (OrangeAdvice: Read Jeffery Gitomer’s book The little red book of selling ) is a important way to build a valuable list of interested prospects.

Your info can be presented as an ebook, email series, mp3 recording, etc. etc. Tell people the value of the information you have as it relates to your business and let them request it. Tell them that you will be delivering other information just like it in the future and that you will not sell, rent or give their personal contact info to anyone.

Google adwords and overture are great tools to get visitors to your site. Google can be tricky and if you have no experience with it I would suggest you invest $69 bucks or so in Perry Marshall’s Google Tool Kit. It contains valuable information about setting up a successful Google Campaign. You can use these same strategies on Overture as well.

Perry’s methods really help to create a more trackable and effective overall campaign strategy.

Obviously optimization is really preferred because it free. But without knowing that kind of web coding it can be tough to do.

Word of mouth is awesome! But the key to that is building into your communication viral elements that help and make your message spread. Being unique and scendsational helps accomplish this goal. (OrangeAdvice: email me for a copy of my e-book “The 7 B’s in Scendsational” for more on this topic.)

Joint ventures are great!! One of the best methods of growing a list. Partnering with others who are in cross over industries that share the same target is highly effective. What we call endorsed email marketing allows you to get in front of new prospects with an instant level of credibility. BEWARE: make sure that the person you are partnering with has a solid relationship with their list members – otherwise you will be perceived as a pest – not a welcome guest.

Press releases are good – You can send them online too. Try PRweb.com I know they have both a free and paid listing service. Both work effectively.

Creating free info content and articles for use in other people’s newsletters and websites is a good way to get free publicity. Add the viral element and end your info and articles with a blurb about how and where to get more of the same valuable content and more info about your service – direct them to your site.

Be careful with banner advertising… Banner ads, unless pay per click and placed in highly targeted traffic areas are black holes of marketing money.

Make sure you think about this before you spend any marketing money…

First, think very narrow, highly defined target. Who are this people – very specifically? Don’t be afraid to alienate some large groups of people.

Then consider what do these people really want. How can my offering really help them. What about my offer is really compelling to this group. What is my offer. Is it irritable to them? Make sure that it is.

Then and only after steps one and two… can you think about where to put that message. Media is the last step… most people get it wrong and buy some radio or something and then try to make it work… I promise it won’t.
My final advice, as we tell all our friends.

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