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Old 10-12-2006, 04:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How often do you visit church?
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Old 10-12-2006, 04:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 10-12-2006, 04:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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was going weekly for a while but certain things at church made us stop, now we are looking for another church.
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Old 10-12-2006, 01:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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As much as I can. Sundays, Wednesday night bible study, and special events! How often do you visit?
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Never, I am completely atheist.

But surely if you are christian, then you wouldnt make a very good capatalist?

The basis of capatalism in economics is aquiring at somone elses expense somewhere. So for all the money you make, you are taking that money from somone else, and not the consumer, but people who could have potentialy made that money from the consumer.

Doesnt that go against christian morales? Unless you are providing a service where you make only make enough profit to self substain, and in doing so you undercut any competitors providing the service purely for the profit.
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:37 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Chopper...dude...do your research before you say stuff like this. The basis of capitalism is being able to acquire your own share of a market by providing something of value.

It has very little to do with "christian morals" and it certainly doesn't contradict them. For example...there's a story you've probably heard in success books that's also in the bible called "the parable of the talents".

"Talents" means silver coins...and in the story, the owner of a plantation or whatever they had back then left town on a long trip. He gave one servant 5 pieces of silver, another servant 2 pieces of silver, and the 3rd servant 1 piece of silver...according to their abilities.

The man with 5 talents went out immediately and invested the silver, and ended up earning 5 more in profit, doubling his amount. The second servant did the same and doubled his amount, earning 2 talents in profit. The servant who had received just one talent, however, went off, dug a hole and hid his masters money to keep it safe.

After a long time, the master of the servants returned and wanted a report from them. The 1st servant said, "Master, you've entrusted me with 5...I gained 5 more" The master replied: "Well done! You've been faithful with just 5...I'll put you in charge of much more now".

The 2nd servant said, "Master, you entrusted me with 2 talents...I've gained 2 more." The master said, "Well done! I'll put you in charge of many things!"

The servant with 1 talent came. "Master, I know you're a powerful man and take your money seriously. So, I was afraid I would lose it and I hid your talent in the ground. Here it is, just as it was." The master replied, "You wicked, lazy servant!" "Take this servant's one talent away from him and give it to the servant who now has 10!"

Straight out of the bible, bro. Doesn't look like it prohibits profits to me. Actually, if anything, it looks like the bible is saying it's a sin not to earn profit. Interesting huh?
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Never, I am completely atheist.

But surely if you are christian, then you wouldnt make a very good capatalist?

The basis of capatalism in economics is aquiring at somone elses expense somewhere. So for all the money you make, you are taking that money from somone else, and not the consumer, but people who could have potentialy made that money from the consumer.

Doesnt that go against christian morales? Unless you are providing a service where you make only make enough profit to self substain, and in doing so you undercut any competitors providing the service purely for the profit.
Oh come now, if you're gonna take a swing at Christianity, you might want to raise the intellectual bar a little higher.
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not a believer and got nothing against religion

Thats until someone tries to force it onto me every so often
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Quite honestly, Christians make the BEST capitalists... Atleast their leaders do. What do you think these Mega-Churches do to get money? My church in Florida had a full time online web ministry, book/music store inside of the church, a private school, and a lot of other entrepreneurial ventures planned from the future.

Want to find out how successful they are? Look at the pastors' and the church leaders' vehicles and homes. Think I'm kidding? I grew up "backstage" and saw the other side of religion. Think of everything that you know about the Mob, legitimize it, make it morally "Righteous", and give it a permanent tax break and "Get outa jail free card". That is the 'religion' of Christianity that we know and love today. Entrepreneurs, Capitalists, and Criminals! lol... I'm not better, and still believe in God (more so now than ever), I'm just sick of how these corrupt leaders are marring the name of Christianity, and turning it into organized religion" rather than belief.
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