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11-03-2006, 12:34 AM
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Sponsoring
Hi everyone,
My name is Simon and I am starting off a new project on the internet, however, finding money to fund the project is a large problem. I have 100% faith in the idea and that it WILL work, but I am under 18, which disqualifies me from being able to get a loan from a bank or any similar source, And, I do not want to be hassling my parents for money. I have researched into the many business funding sources and the most feasible for my project I would say is Sponsoring.
The main problem I have is finding a sponsor and how to go about contacting them and asking about sponsorship. Also a huge obsticle for this project is that it is original and people would steal it if i told them it, I can copyright it and everything like that BUT that costs money which I just don't have.
I was wondering if any of you have got sponsors and if so, how did you go about getting them?
Thanks for your time -
Simon Stewart
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11-03-2006, 12:43 AM
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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Originally Posted by SimonS
Hi everyone,
I have 100% faith in the idea and that it WILL work
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simon, this is an example of confirmation bias
you're not ready for the business world
try to step away from these pie in the sky delusions and go do some market research surveys
if you get positive results from live prospects, things will start working for you
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11-03-2006, 12:45 AM
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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Originally Posted by SimonS
Also a huge obsticle for this project is that it is original and people would steal it if i told them it, I can copyright it and everything like that BUT that costs money which I just don't have.
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these are just silly concerns which concern you because you cannot distiguish between business priorities and what is a real and an imaginary business risk
don't say things like "steal my idea" to business people because they will laugh at you
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11-03-2006, 06:15 AM
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Yeah maybe he is being a bit naive shall we say , BUT he may just have a very good idea .
Bud add me on msn alexshelton90@hotmail.co.uk
or pm with further info
Thanks
Alex
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11-03-2006, 08:24 AM
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Yea akula is right. What is the point of you even posting this? Also, that bias akula talks about is a very dangerous one to carry and one you need to lose quickly. Now, if you want help and you thing your idea is so great then explain the market you think you will sell it to and some competition you would have in the market. Again, if it is so great and you cant tell anyone then what are your intentions of this post?
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11-04-2006, 09:33 PM
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#6 (permalink)
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Junior Member
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Some Help
Hey,
Don't mind all of the guys who are telling you not to worry about someone stealing your ideas. Even if they all own large businesses, they still need to worry about ideas, and to tell you the truth, if they aren't protecting the ideas before they spread the word, they are idiots. What would have happened to apple if they had run out to Microsoft and said" Look, we've designed this new music player, what do you think?". Microsoft wouldn't have started on their own digital player right away, but they would've started the market research to see if it would be a good sales solution.
Basically, you can tell anyone and everyone about your idea's concept, but never the actually tell them how it exactly works. NEVER. Plain and simple. Sure, maybe none of them will steal the idea, but you never know who else may browsing this site or any other for that matter. I bet a couple of large corporations have a Intelligence crew scouring the internet looking for good ideas that come from people like us.
Being under 18 myself, I've taken to making sure no one steals my idea through protection means such as contracts and non-disclosure/usage contracts. They don't take much time to write, and basically state that if anyone uses the idea I've come up with, or the business idea, they can have legal action taken against them. Make sure an adult signs also though. Never just you should sign it, since you are under 18. Some people believe the contracts can't stop anyone from taking your idea, but in truth it can. If you tell someone about your idea, and they use that concept to make a product, and sell it, you can be entitled to the entire sales total, and profits, and they can be arrested for the theft of intellectual property.
Just be safe and protect yourself(great now I sound like a Health Teacher!Lol.)
Ryan
NIPS Global Solutions, LLC.
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11-04-2006, 09:55 PM
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Nobody asked him to share his idea. like you said I asked for a geneal description of the market and the competition.. Of course you dont spread key business data objectives without an NDA. The fact is the kid hasnt said any more than I have a good idea that 100% will work. Show me anyone on the forum who couldnt start a thread like that. So again, some genral market and competitor info will be necessary for any help. Also if you don't want to share any information here. Get a business and marketing plan together,as without them anybody you ask for money from will not take you seriously.
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11-05-2006, 12:10 AM
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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ryan,
1) typically, the only disclosure i need is a descrption of the problem the entrepreneur is solving
2) your comparison b/n apple and msft is not fitting
these are large companies who have the power to monopolise markets
with a sizable competitor, information has value because ppl can act on it
with an itsy bitsy little startup, the dynamics are diffrent
you're not gonna expect a first time ceo to dominate a billion dollar market overnight, or even capture 1% of market share within 5 years
it's be proposterous to expect a first time ceo to succeed at all, in anything else other than puffery
therefore, unique ideas are useless to first time ceos because they're not in a position to execute them, much less profit from them
the better starategy for 1st time ceos is to scream their ideas off the rooftops so they get a reputation for being an ideas person
Last edited by akula; 11-05-2006 at 12:39 AM.
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11-05-2006, 04:03 AM
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Thanks for feedback,
Basically what i was actually asking was how do you go about getting sponsoring, like how would you ask a company? I didn't ask "I have a good idea that 100% will work". So if people would read posts properly and get the right idea of what it is about, including the fact that the title is "Sponsoring". No one actually addressed the question that I asked.
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11-05-2006, 05:29 AM
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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the answer to your question:
to get sponsorship what you have to offer is evidence of a return on investment. the document which you are gonna be shopping around is called a media kit. to make a media kit, this is what you do:
1) Identify your target market. Who are your potential sponsors and what is a common problem experienced by the management.
so, before I proceed, what is the problem you are solving, and who are the other large companies (i.e. potential sponsors) solving the same kind of problem as you're solving.
for example: independent artists like the Bright red Band are having difficulties recruiting fans. You want to help them recruit fans by putting together a marketing consultancy that launches viral awareness campaigns for independent artists. The problem you are solving is similar to what MySpace Inc is trying to solve, so you will target MySpace as a potential sponsor.
Then, you go through the steps of making a media kit, which you'll pitch to MySpace people, offering a return on investment if they buy your sponsorship package
Last edited by akula; 11-05-2006 at 05:32 AM.
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11-05-2006, 12:51 PM
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The best way to get money for you business is to get a job and save up. Even ask for small bits from family members. Or start a sm | |