Looking for business partners

[jdorman19]

Hi. I'm looking for a graphic designer and fashion designer who are inspired by surfing, skating, snowboarding, and music who are located in North County San Diego area and are preferably in their late teens.

For those who are serious about starting a new brand, starting out w/ Tshirts and depending on success move further after that.

[Brad Burnette]

Can't say i'm interested in graphic design and apparel. If you are just really into this, then best of luck to you. If you are interested primarily in making money, then I have opportunities I would be happy to discuss with you.

[rachael24]

Best of luck...What kind of money making opportunities do you speak of, Brad?

[Brad Burnette]

Check PM Rachael.

[RLorenzen]

Can't say i'm interested in graphic design and apparel. If you are just really into this, then best of luck to you. If you are interested primarily in making money, then I have opportunities I would be happy to discuss with you.

Then why are you posting here? Your post seems irrelevant to the poster's message. Sounds like an MLM or "get rich quick" pitch.

[Brad Burnette]

RLorenzen,

It is called a response. I read his post, said I wasn't interested, and informed him that I might have something he is interested in. I fail to see the problem here. However, using your logic, I would ask why you are responding to me on his post, while saying nothing about his original post at all? At least I said as much.

This is an entrepreneur website, if you didn't notice. Therefore, the primary discussion will tend to revolve around "making money" and "opportunities". Is that not what we are here for?

Why is it then that this equates automatically to "get rich quick schemes" or MLM? Why are 'grqs' and MLM in the same question? I didn't know the two were necessarily related.

We are open minded here, or entrepreneurs, whichever description you prefer. No one cares to hear uneducated and close minded criticism on no more of a basis than "I heard ya say 'money' and 'opportunity', must be a scam". There are billions of clones on blogs across the internet just like you. We don't need or want you here.

You're a 95%'er in heart and mind. Get some sleep before you have to go back to work at 04dark30. But thank you very much for the mindless, baseless, uneducated, unintelligent, disoriented, and down-right stupid opinions you presented.

Have a great day!

[Brad Burnette]

And in case that was a "raised eyebrow" question on the MLM or "get rich quick" scheme, instead of what it sounded like, a statement of known fact from your omniscience, the answer is no to both. Get rich quick? Not going to happen. MLM? Nope. Our business is FPO.

[BusinessAdviser]

We don't need or want you here.

You're a 95%'er in heart and mind. Get some sleep before you have to go back to work at 04dark30. But thank you very much for the mindless, baseless, uneducated, unintelligent, disoriented, and down-right stupid opinions you presented.

"We" don't need or want him here? Who else are you referring to?

Also, why are you attacking him personally when he criticized the content of your message? It seems immature to me that you responded with a personal attack rather than defending the merit of your own post, and makes me question the credibility of your venture.

In the future, be professional and respectful and stick to the issues, not the people raising them.

[Brad Burnette]

Jmeng, I believe I covered the issue. Unfortunately, the issue is a person. In case you are unaware, people can be issues, specifically ignorant people who assumes things with little to no information, and then retaliate with baseless arguments. The points I made were all accurate, true, valid, and to the point. By "We" I mean entrepreneurs. The kind of thinking this individual possesses is that of a child, or at least a "know-it-all" employee with no results to back his talk. That is not an entrepreneur's thinking, this is an entrepreneur forum, thus I say that he should go elsewhere. Maybe a career or job fair forum of some sort. Not being ugly, just pointing out things as they are. No opinions, just the facts and reality. If you FEEL like I am attacking anyone, then there must be something that you see wrong with the way such a person thinks, since I am only pointing out the obvious. Thanks for your input.

[Brad Burnette]

Oh yea, and if you want to school people for what you see as "disrespectful" or "unprofessional" jmeng, start with the person who started the discussion with an ignorant, disrespectufl, unprofessional, one-liner about someone else's business. Or are you two buddies and he asked you to come back him up like a high school fight? If you are going to try to tell me the way you see things, then don't be upset when your own logic gets turned on you and makes you look foolish. Good day.

[BusinessAdviser]

Oh yea, and if you want to school people for what you see as "disrespectful" or "unprofessional" jmeng, start with the person who started the discussion with an ignorant, disrespectufl, unprofessional, one-liner about someone else's business. Or are you two buddies and he asked you to come back him up like a high school fight? If you are going to try to tell me the way you see things, then don't be upset when your own logic gets turned on you and makes you look foolish. Good day.

Sweetheart, I'm failing to see how my own logic has been turned around to make me look foolish.

Whether you start an ignorant, disrespectful, and unprofessional (as well as immature) discussion or just jump on in and participate in it, you're still "schooling" the world about the way you conduct yourself and business.

[RLorenzen]

RLorenzen,

It is called a response. I read his post, said I wasn't interested, and informed him that I might have something he is interested in. I fail to see the problem here. However, using your logic, I would ask why you are responding to me on his post, while saying nothing about his original post at all? At least I said as much.

This is an entrepreneur website, if you didn't notice. Therefore, the primary discussion will tend to revolve around "making money" and "opportunities". Is that not what we are here for?

Why is it then that this equates automatically to "get rich quick schemes" or MLM? Why are 'grqs' and MLM in the same question? I didn't know the two were necessarily related.

We are open minded here, or entrepreneurs, whichever description you prefer. No one cares to hear uneducated and close minded criticism on no more of a basis than "I heard ya say 'money' and 'opportunity', must be a scam". There are billions of clones on blogs across the internet just like you. We don't need or want you here.

You're a 95%'er in heart and mind. Get some sleep before you have to go back to work at 04dark30. But thank you very much for the mindless, baseless, uneducated, unintelligent, disoriented, and down-right stupid opinions you presented.

Have a great day!

I still do not get why you posted in this thread. What you are doing is just going around and randomly recruiting anybody. That has MLM written all over it. Unless, you're just desperate to find someone that will help you out in your little venture so you are enticing people with promises of money. If you are not some MLM or pyramid company then you are doing a terrible job representing your business.

You may be able to describe an entrepreneur but you obviously are not one. Entrepreneurs do what they do because of their passion for doing it, not just to make money. In your message you pointed out clearly the potential to make money without clarifiying any other part of the opportunity. You believe that in a group of entrepreneurs, members will be lured into your venture for money. Which shows even more that you do not know the definition of a real entrepreneur. The most important characteristic of an entrepreneur is his/her passion. Without passion for a business you have nothing, no matter how much money you make. I have heard your same message from so many other MLM opportunities, some of them on this group. If you want to be perceived as credible and not an MLM, seriously consider changing how you make your "recruitment" pitch.

[RLorenzen]

We don't need or want you here.

I would say the same to you, but I want to keep my professional image intact. Acting like a baby will get you nowhere fast.

[Brad Burnette]

I still do not get why you posted in this thread. What you are doing is just going around and randomly recruiting anybody. That has MLM written all over it. Unless, you're just desperate to find someone that will help you out in your little venture so you are enticing people with promises of money. If you are not some MLM or pyramid company then you are doing a terrible job representing your business.

You may be able to describe an entrepreneur but you obviously are not one. Entrepreneurs do what they do because of their passion for doing it, not just to make money. In your message you pointed out clearly the potential to make money without clarifiying any other part of the opportunity. You believe that in a group of entrepreneurs, members will be lured into your venture for money. Which shows even more that you do not know the definition of a real entrepreneur. The most important characteristic of an entrepreneur is his/her passion. Without passion for a business you have nothing, no matter how much money you make. I have heard your same message from so many other MLM opportunities, some of them on this group. If you want to be perceived as credible and not an MLM, seriously consider changing how you make your "recruitment" pitch.

RLorenzen,

First off, I still don't understand what you think you know that makes you put these in a category together: MLM, scam, pyramid, and uncredible. I don't work with an MLM, but the fact that you put these all in one category shows severe ignorance. Notice I didn't say you are stupid, but you are ignorant if you classify these together. Scam and pyramid and uncredible go together for sure, but I am pretty sure MLM doesn't fall in that class. As much as I dislike them, I think you'll notice Amway/Quixtar has run for years legally. They are an MLM, and are not a scam, pyramid, or uncredible. Make no mistake, I don't think they offer a good opportunity, but they do offer a legal one. I have trouble taking anything you say or any advice you offer seriously since you appear to like to rant about things you don't understand. That's what angry bloggers do, not entrepreneurs.

And you obviously know I'm not an entrepreneur, huh? Funny thing: All of my income comes from the B and S quadrants. That's weird. But you're omniscient, right?

You make a lot of assumptions in your statements about the allure of money/passion segment. First, you apparently think my whole point/purpose/business is one thing and one thing only: "make money". What you ought to realize is that it is one line on a forum that is the beginning of a conversation. I have a post detailing what I and my business do (which you are free to check out if you like), and to anyone who is not interested in one specific thing field or business, but in finding a way to not trade time for money, I will refer them to it and then we will discuss details further. No interest, no problem, I'm not looking for just anyone anyways. You look foolish in assuming. I am VERY passionate about what I do, actually. You would do yourself a favor to reason through things in your mind before they spill out of your mouth like food chewed while talking. It really is embarrassing for you, even if you don't realize that "your fly is unzipped".

And finally you wind back up with your MLM/credibility/recruitment speech again. Why do you keep coming back to this? Do you have a sore back side because you got suckered into some pyramid scheme in the 70's or something? Give that crap a rest. Pyramid scams are pretty much dead and gone. I can say for sure that I haven't been pitched one in the last 24 years, nor can I name one.

And while it isn't all about the money, business is about making money, in case you didn't know. I don't know anyone who is interested in a "nice" business that loses money. Entrepreneurship is about maximizing results in Free Market Capitalism. I.e. - Making money. So relax on that point too.

If you need any more education, or need flaws in your assumptions, points, or arguments pointed out, I'll be around. Just give me a shout and I'll be glad to continue the education process with you. If you can work through a few things, you'll be on the right track to becoming a credible entrepreneur. Just a few changes in thinking, doing a little more thinking before you speak, learning to educate yourself on different businesses before you draw baseless conclusions, and a few other things, and you'll be well on your way.

Hope this helps you out.

[Brad Burnette]

I would say the same to you, but I want to keep my professional image intact. Acting like a baby will get you nowhere fast.

Let me help you with your terrible lack of reasoning skills here. I told you that we don't need assumers, acusers, and complainers like you here. All of these things are true. Pointing out that no one likes a critic, especially one who doesn't have any material to even go off of, but simply hops in to smear his opinion all over the walls, is not quite acting like a baby. I believe most would agree that they don't wish to hear your unwarranted, unsolicited, unnecessary, and unintelligent responses. You blew your professional image when you hopped on this forum post to fire away your opinions. Opinions that don't even fit this forum post, and even if they did, you offer no backing for them, and they scream ignorance of the topic you chose to bring up, apparently out of thin air. Conservative FMCs don't base their understanding of things on emotions, we leave that for employees and liberals to do. I fail to see how pointing out flaws in what you say, or how you come to believe that what you say is true, is acting like a baby or hurting my professional image. Probably because it is not.