[Moses]

I'm from south africa and have been wanting to enter into this market myself.... Vernie let me know when you've set up the company and have all your processes in place, maybe I can open a SA branch for you

[VernieOnAMission]

I'm from Englewood, NJ. Ten minutes from the GWB. I travel back and forth between NYC and Jersey so if you know ppl in either state who are entrepreneurial, I could talk with them about my idea as well!!

[VernieOnAMission]

Originally Posted by GCortner

I am also interested

That's funny! I was in ATL pitching my idea earlier to some college students, who were recommended to me by my friend this year. I was holding meetings in the Starbucks on Peachtree street near alot of restaurants and there was a MARTA station nearby where the Georgia Tech trolly came. Are u familiar with that area?

Yeah well the individuals I met with weren't too serious. But my sister lives in ATL...we should defenitly talk!!

[djblacksuperman]

im also interested.. texas here

[Cameron]

Vonage has spent endless amounts on advertising and the jury is still out on VOIP.

[VernieOnAMission]

Originally Posted by Cameron

Vonage has spent endless amounts on advertising and the jury is still out on VOIP.

You're correct ; Vonage has spent endless amounts on advertising, But I wouldn't say the jury is out on the VOIP industry. Optimum Voice, Comcast...that's all VOIP too and they have tons of satisfied customers.

Vonage fails to win because they have a horrible marketing strategy. Commercials no longer have the effectiveness that they used to, yet they dump billions into this tactic. I've already studied the big boys...me and my partners know how to win!!

Question is...whose with us?

[akula]

Originally Posted by Cameron

Vonage has spent endless amounts on advertising and the jury is still out on VOIP.

I'd second that, likewise, I don't think it's neither prudent to dismiss Vonage nor fail to quantitatively comment on whether Comcast's voip products are profitable.

In Australia, we've got at least 20 startup voip vendors but they are in no way winning any consumer market share from traditional telcos. Engin hasn't been able to lift it's revenues, where as
Macquarie telecom, on another hand, sell to corporate customers have been unable to get profitable.

I challange anybody to show me a runaway VOIP startup sucess story.

From what I observe, voip is an extraordinary tough place to make any money for startup companies.

Then again, Occam Networks in Santa Barbara ranked first in 2006 Deloitte Fast 500. Their revenues grew 48,948% between 2001-06, but they're not a voip vendor per say...but a supplier to voip vendors.

[VernieOnAMission]

I am very pleased with the interest in this venture! I learned from a very successful gentlemen that majority of the world is made of BIG GAME TALKERS who never take action....and while I've enjoyed our dialogue, you can't cash this forum in at the bank...LOL!!
This week I will be holding teleconferences with all truly interested parties. The schedule is as follows:

Monday February 19, 2007
10 pm Eastern Standard
11 pm Eastern Standard

Tuesday, February 20, 2007
10 pm Eastern Standard
11pm Eastern Standard

Wednesday, February 10, 2007
10 pm Eastern Standard
11pm Eastern Standard

To sign up for a slot, please PM me 12 hours prior to the requested time and I will respond with all conference call information. First come, first serve so please respond ASAP. Thank You.

If none of these times suit you, please PM me and we can schedule a more convenient time.

Thank You and Best Regards,

VernieOnAMission

[VernieOnAMission]

Originally Posted by akula

I'd second that, likewise, I don't think it's neither prudent to dismiss Vonage nor fail to quantitatively comment on whether Comcast's voip products are profitable.

In Australia, we've got at least 20 startup voip vendors but they are in no way winning any consumer market share from traditional telcos. Engin hasn't been able to lift it's revenues, where as
Macquarie telecom, on another hand, sell to corporate customers have been unable to get profitable.

I challange anybody to show me a runaway VOIP startup sucess story.

From what I observe, voip is an extraordinary tough place to make any money for startup companies.

Then again, Occam Networks in Santa Barbara ranked first in 2006 Deloitte Fast 500. Their revenues grew 48,948% between 2001-06, but they're not a voip vendor per say...but a supplier to voip vendors.

Akula, you make great points!

We should be celebrating the fact that there are no runaway VOIP success stories! If there were tons of success stories then there would be no oppurtunity!

Because no one, not even Vonage or Comcast has made a real dent in the industry, the industry is fresh like wet cement. The field is anyone's to play....and leave their mark.

Entrepreneurship is about vision; Seeing something before everyone else. Those are the people I'm looking to work with!

[akula]

Originally Posted by VernieOnAMission

Entrepreneurship is about vision; Seeing something before everyone else. Those are the people I'm looking to work with!

hehe

That's a great attitude

I used to think like that untill I found out that entrepreneurship is about making money

I miss the old days

Call me crazy, but it seems the best indicator of being able to make a dollar is evidence of a sucessful competitor

anyway...I've seen enough sucess stories to be absolutely convinced of my own inability to diffrentiate as to what is and what is not a good business opportunity

good luck :-)