[TheCDAllenGroup]

Originally Posted by jmenq2

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now you ARE coming off as quite abrasive. If you want to get down to it, you ARE wrong.

I asked, "[i]s there a true conviction on the part of the publisher to merely provide two subjects of interest through one common source, or is it ... an attempt to cater to a group of people who will embrace the publication for its self-proclaimed religious affiliation rather than its quality?"

Oh, no. You are still incorrect sir.

You asked three (3) different questions [one being conditional on the response of the former two (2). I answered the first one, as my experience in the study the Holy Scriptures allowed me to. My answer to the last of your questions [as above] came from the OP, not from a 'reading of minds' or alledgely resorting to inaccurate generalizations, like Akula.

I could go on further, but I think that it is already blatantly obvious to anyone who reads this thread that you have taken personal offense to Akula's suggestion.

Again, you're equating my detailed inquiry of Akula's claims with an alleged 'defense' of mine. You're going to have to do better than that to deem my credibility as compromised.
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[jonathanleong]

This is a great post...

Great Observation!

[TheCDAllenGroup]

Originally Posted by akula

In other words, how would you feel about that financial planner friend of yours with minimal theological training, to join this mag and start spouting his interpretations about the bible? You'd feel about it the same way as I feel about unqualified people writing about finance.

Well Daniel,

I only responded to this thread because it seemed to me that you were assuming that the inclusion of sound financial advice supported by Scripture would be a compromise in itself.

I only hope that the writers and columnists have been well-versed into all aspects of financial education and able to substantiate their advise with supporting Biblical principles in context.

[akula]

I think if you are gonna analyse and critique the facts here, it's more interesting to consider things from a christian perspective.

Here you have writers who haven't done seminary training, or been ordained as ministers polluting the flock with their own skewed, financially driven interpretations of the bible "i.e. jesus would buy this stock! (because the company buys ads from us, but we didn't say that)"

that's the issue here. qualified preachers already have jobs doing their work in churches..so who are you gonna be left with to write for this mag and tell people the meaning of Proverbs 4:7? It's gonna be people who can't or won't get jobs in a church. Hardly anybody who I'd like to be teaching my kids in sunday school.

Originally Posted by TheCDAllenGroup

Oh, no. You are still incorrect sir.

You asked three (3) different questions [one being conditional on the response of the former two (2). I answered the first one, as my experience in the study the Holy Scriptures allowed me to. My answer to the last of your questions [as above] came from the OP, not from a 'reading of minds' or alledgely resorting to inaccurate generalizations, like Akula.



Again, you're equating my detailed inquiry of Akula's claims with an alleged 'defense' of mine. You're going to have to do better than that to deem my credibility as compromised.

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All other things aside:

You stated, "If the masses of poorly financially educated individuals here in the U.S. [and abroad] managed their finances and adhered to the basic investing principles presented in the Scriptures [which are thousands of years old], we would not witness the countless instances of families buried in bad consumer debt, little savings, and poor financial decisions."

I will neither agree nor disagree with your statement, as I do not have statistically-significant information at this point to accept or reject this proposition.

HOWEVER, I will ask you this one question:

Is the financial advice provided in the publication going to be based on "the principles and insight into personal finance management, basic investing, and prosperity" as "presented in the Scriptures?"

If the answer is YES, then I would side with you in support of the publication, as there IS value in a publication which helps Christians desiring to manage their finances in accordance with Biblical teachings.

However, if the answer is NO, even if the information is accurate and helpful, then I would side with Akula in support of the proposition (which I think he made in one way or another) that the Christian-basis of the publication serves no other purpose than to exploit and prey on those individuals who attach a higher value to products that have some Christian affiliation.

Would that seem fair to say? Or do you think that a secular publication (or any other product, for that matter) which brands itself as "Christian" but which does not include any Biblical lessons, is STILL not attempting to exploit Christians merely due to its "Christian" self-branding.

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Originally Posted by TheCDAllenGroup

Well Daniel,

I only responded to this thread because it seemed to me that you were assuming that the inclusion of sound financial advice supported by Scripture would be a compromise in itself.

I only hope that the writers and columnists have been well-versed into all aspects of financial education and able to substantiate their advise with supporting Biblical principles in context.

You just answered my question, and it's much more reassuring to see that you understand that there CAN be exploitation, but it all comes down to the content and possibly to the publisher's intent in creating it. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.

[TheCDAllenGroup]

Originally Posted by akula

I think if you are gonna analyse and critique the facts here, it's more interesting to consider things from a christian perspective.

Here you have writers who haven't done seminary training, or been ordained as ministers polluting the flock with their own skewed, financially driven interpretations of the bible "i.e. jesus would buy this stock! (because the company buys ads from us, but we didn't say that)"

that's the issue here. qualified preachers already have jobs doing their work in churches..so who are you gonna be left with to write for this mag and tell people the meaning of Proverbs 4:7? It's gonna be people who can't or won't get jobs in a church. Hardly anybody who I'd like to be teaching my kids in sunday school.

That's where my enemies, Fundamentalist Christians, come in handy...lol

Just kidding.

[TheCDAllenGroup]

Originally Posted by jmenq2

You just answered my question, and it's much more reassuring to see that you understand that there CAN be exploitation, but it all comes down to the content and possibly to the publisher's intent in creating it. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.

Yes, you're correct.
That's the long and short of it. Actually this venture is something quite similiar to what I've wanted to do in a blog+podcast form.

[jasaunders]

Not to get off topic, but this publicaton is going to be garbage because the press release posted was grabage and included many gramatical errors and wrong use of words (ie. 'affect' instead of 'effect').

You would think of all people who should put out a good press release, it would be a publisher.

[zwillis]

I felt that waiting a good 12 hours is a sufficient amount of time to wait for any reply. I must say that I am confused and a little frustrated at the "battle" of posters, yet at the same time not surprised. When posting in a forum, one always expects the topic to change--however I did hope that I would eventually hear from a "Looking for Capital/Biz Partners" kind of person.

You have however, proved a fantastic point. The idea of Faith and Finance is contradiction in terms to most people. The American church (at least the one's I was raised in) often avoided the subject of money-- except to say "the root of all evil is money." An often misquoted verse of scripture. I appreciate people coming to the publications defense, however it needs no defense. Especially when it hasn't even been published yet. If you have questions about the magazine, I would invite you to try asking me. Even if you got a bias opinion, you would at least be able to ascertain what I (the publisher) intends vs. attempting to read into or deduct your own hypothesis on the content of our magazine.

I do however, thank you for your comments. And always welcome questions. (Please keep in mind that it may take some time to respond, as I am working towards a launch.) I would like to now re-direct this thread back to its original intent--"Looking for Capital/Biz Partners".

Thank you for your time and God Bless.