Young entreprenuer classes

[philcollinskc]

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Hey guys i got this idea.... its for any kid sitting in his/her marketing class groaning at the example of a sporting goods store, or kids who dont want to learn how to find out how tall a tree is using trig, or why the human mind works the way it does, but rather how they could make money using these ideas. I want to know how many young entrepreneurs want to learn one thing: how to make money. period. Out of that assumed 100%, i now need to know how many of them would be willing to pay a flat monthly fee to learn how to make money from the experts.
Fill me in.
-Phil

[akula]

phil, you're way off on everything

businesses aren't started with "I want to be an entrepreneur" and they're certainly not started because people want to make the most money

good luck

[solomonsmine]

I'm sorry Akula but WHAT!?

[akula]

ok...the discussion here is about how to create an educational product

to make a good one, the product has to fit the needs of the target market

in this case it's 15-25 year olds

if one cares to explore the needs of young people, she'll find that young people don't think about "how to make money"

this kind of thinking is not popular, because people who think this way get rejected by their peer group. being a wealth creation junkie is flat out uncool.

young people think about other things like how to get a career break, deal with the succession plan of their family business, how to find meaning, make a contribution to society, escape poverty, get famous, make friends jealous and feel good about them selves

that's the starting point in making an educational product - exploring the social context and needs of young people

if this point is ignored, the product will be the equivalent of uncompetitive drivel, in a never ending sea of identical drivel

[Sam Barona]

A further topic to add is that one of the main reasons that people switch off during educational activities is that these are not designed to the individual's needs.

Different people have different learning styles and a one-size fits all approach is just another way to get people to switch off.

If you want to create something special, then take learning styles into consideration, then carry out a skill analysis so that the tutor is not teaching stuff the kids already understand, and then apply contextualisation techniques like story telling, anecdotes, etc.

Then, you should also incorporate speed learning techniques that will assist in the assimialtion of the subject matter such as neuro linguistic programming; and finally, you should use other techniques that will assist in recal of data; such as applied knowledge exercises (the more real the better).

Good educational/training systems are not just about content type.

Good luck

Sam

[ZendURL]

Ever since I was 7 I wanted to start a business. The desire to create a business is not something you can teach; it is something that somebody either has or doesn't have. If you want to start a business I recommend that you go ahead and start a low risk, low reward business. It'll do more teaching then any class ever could.

[philcollinskc]

That's a great idea. Possibly a base line evaluation of each student or even a survey to find out just what these guys want to learn would work? If you've ever seen the movie accepted, where they write what they want to learn on a wall and the curriculum is adjusted accordingly, i think that same principle could be effectively applied to these classes.
keep em coming,
Phil

[DJ Samson]

Robert Kiyosaki had an investing school for people of all ages. There could very well be something made like this but more towards business ownership. I'm 15 and a motivated future business owner/investor. I used to be a solid A-B in subjects like social studies, math, english, etc. But now I'm more of a B-C student.

Subjects like science I've never done good at because I don't aspire for a career in science. History is interesting because we can learn from the past, but there isn't one school week where some days you want to fall asleep. English, which I always had good grades in, doesn't even seem logical anymore. We spend half of our time doing word searches and scrambles...yes that's right, word searches in a Grade 10 Regents Class. I try not to ask myself how my teacher got her job. Finally, math, which seemed the most logical is running low on fuel. For the most part of middle school they could bring alot of meaning to what we learned with percentages and money. But now, when my teacher is asked how this will effect our lives, he simply says "You need to pass High School, don't you?"

So to answer the original question, I would pay to learn business if it was a good course.

[akula]

this is exactly what makes my blood boil

why do you look to opportunities you have no experience with?

leave this teaching stuff to the teachers

want to be a teacher? get some teaching experience

all this stuff is not a fucking game

you can't just swing from one chandelier to another your entire life

[rossco1]

You may be doing word searches but your actually establishing your base point for the rest of your life. Your learning your values, work ethics that will stick with you for your remaining school years and your life. You may be thinking school is pointless but it actually is teaching you a lot more then the times-tables and periodic elements.

[DJ Samson]

Experience? I have two middle school teachers in my family. I've been around the educational system my entire life, and I don't think it's right that we're going by a 200 year old system. Our school system makes great employees like teachers, doctors, lawyers, etc. But for those who want financial freedom like investors and entrepreneur - well school is not the place to learn it.

Coming from a high schooler, I've learned more life and business lessons in the four books I've read this year than in the past four years in school. I guess I'll have to rely on resources like books and the internet to feed my appetite to learn something for my future outside of a 9 to 5 job.

[akula]

oop, i should have noted that i was replying to philcollinskc's post

[Bored]

phil, you're way off on everything

businesses aren't started with "I want to be an entrepreneur" and they're certainly not started because people want to make the most money

good luck

I agree,

My motivation has not much to do with making money. Making money is just a nice side-effect of being an entrepreneur. The true rewards are in the creative process and conquering challenges.

And on the topic of the thread:

I think a neat idea would be to actually start a business with the class. This way they will gain the experience of what it is like to start a business.

[Franakapan]

I think a neat idea would be to actually start a business with the class. This way they will gain the experience of what it is like to start a business.

Thats the way I would liked to learn about business (in a school environment); the applied course that I am about to finish doesn't exactly 'apply', its more like theory pretending its relevent to real business.

[Newton]

In my business management class we had to start a business. It was ok... we got killed by the animal farm business though.