Why MLM/Network Marketing is Loved!!!

[nocci01]

There are 2 types of people in the world...those who know little to nothing about MLM/Network Marketing and hate it...

and those who've learned what it takes to make it and LOVE it!!!...yes it's an elite group but we are a group that is growing strong!

You see...if respectable business people in this world are endorsing MLM/Network Marketing...i.e. Donald Trump and Robert Kiyosaki just to name a few...Warren Buffet has control over a few...

we all just watched the Orlando Magic play in "Amway Arena"...which is a multi-billion dollar company. If MLM was illegal, these companies would be shut down by the government.

Get over it! It's old news. The masses that sit there and justify why they can't succeed in MLM...is exactly why you'll never make it in the industry. MLM has a promising future...it's here to stay...we aren't going anywhere!

www.FirstClassMLM.com - get educated on why it works and stop following the masses about why it doesn't work. We'll NEVER be saturated. No big business has every saturated a market. McDonald's, Wal-Mart, and Microsoft can't even get everyone on their products...there's always room for competition and growth!

"When MLM corporations experience explosive growth, thousands of people go home and soar like eagles. When traditional corporations explode, people from all over the world assume the posture of rats and take to the streets." - Mark Yarnell

...keep on hating...one day you'll end up in one of our organizations. Until then...good luck!

[Will]

No, people (or me at least) don't like MLM because it is sold to people saying it is so easy to succeed and that everyone will, hence making people put money into something most of them shouldn't.

For sure MLM will make SOME people great money, but it is marketed as a really easy way to get rich for everyone etc, which is an absolute lie. You do actually have to have a great amount of knowledge and ability to make good money from it, and I hate that MLM'ers try to tell people 'how easy it is'. It suckers too many ordinary people in who have no marketing skill and therefore they lose out.

[RelyOption Tech.]

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[ciaossu]

I have to disagree with the OP. I did MLM. I succeeded. I made several thousands of dollars profit right away in my first month. Does this mean I love it? Far from it. Just because you can succeed at doing it doesn't mean you like it and vice versa just because you fail doesn't mean you hate it. This logic is a bullshit statement. I dislike the MLM because of the business model, not because I can't make it work. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who have the same opinion. While you certainly can make money with it (you can do so with a lot of things, even on a gray lines), there are better things to do that can produce better results that doesn't require you to bring in new people to the MLM itself. Not even getting into the business model itself, the ROI isn't there.

In the amount of time it takes a person doing MLM, even some of the fastest success stories I've heard, in order to reach a high volume person takes at least a few months if not much longer aka years. In the same time period you could be producing much greater returns doing other things. Why would I want to waste my time doing something that has less results in the end game. Let's give an example. Facebook. Took maybe 2 or 3 years before it received it's billion dollar valuation making the founder an instant massive multi-millionaire. Actually, Yahoo had a bid to buy it for $1.5Bn before any outside investment came in (except for Thiel). If he had sold, he would have been a billionaire. Find me an MLM person, any of them, that can produce results close to this in the same timeframe.

Hell, let's use a smaller example. Mint.com. 3 Years, $170M. I've never met a single MLM guy who's done more than maybe 6-7 figures a month and that's after a few years of building it up. Just the return on ROI already doesn't make sense. How about I use a personal example instead. I was able to generate $30,000/day after a month (maybe a month and a half) worth of work and held that volume consistently for some serious amount of time. About 30-40% of that was profit. Find me an MLM person that can produce results like that in their first 30-45 days and we'll start talking about it's "awesome" potential.

For the record, I dislike Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump as well (not Buffet though). Trump never really made his fortune and went bankrupt several times. More recently one of his hotels went bankrupt as much as 2008 I believe. He's riding on his name more than he is on his empire which he inherted a large chunk from his father, not himself. Robert Kiyosaki only got famous after publishing his books. An author has pound out the bullshit he's spit in his book here: John T. Reed's analysis of Robert T. Kiyosaki's book Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Interesting fact listed was that his co-author sued him in late 2007. While I don't disregard the message they convey have been helpful to many and that they do have talents in certain areas, they're not exactly Steve Jobs or Richard Branson. Not to mention I'm sure they were offered a handsome reward for all the endorsement they did on behalf of the MLM companies out there. Although there is nothing wrong with that, I don't particularly have an affinity for these two douchebags.

While I've never personally been in the book publishing business, my friends are. I can tell you from their experience your first few books don't make you squat. You sell off all the rights for a few hundred or few thousand dollars in some cases and end up hoping to get published so you can establish a household name for yourself. It's only after that that you begin to leverage that as a way to make more money off it. It's the publishing company that benefits the most for beginning publishers. Why do you think Kiyosaki have soooo many books compare to most other authors. If you've gone over his books like I have, you'll noticed there is a major overlap and redundancy in a lot of his books. Most of which is no doubt to squeeze out more money. I could be wrong here and there are rare exceptions but that's besides the point.

Not everyone dislike or hates MLM simply because they can't get it to work. Have you ever considered that maybe people just hate the business model or the way MLM works? While I don't hate it, I don't like the business model either and I certainly wouldn't knock on someone simply because they like it or hate it themselves. The reality is, as entrepreneurs, there are a few things every entrepreneur should seeks out. This includes, but is not limited to, doing something they love or like a lot and doing something that yields the greatest and fastest results. Base on these two facts alone, even if I was wildly successful with MLM, I wouldn't like it. Simply put, I'm not passionate about it and in my honest opinion, it's far from top of the list when it comes to fast results and greatest potential. It'd be nice to have at last one of the two met but neither in this case.

[guidemesingapore]

MLM is fine but its the way its sold is the problem. I have come across various MLM businesses where first they say you will be dealing in world class products etc but then it all comes down to getting more members in the business and you get a share from the new member fee.

[simplyfreegas]

Not everyone dislike or hates MLM simply because they can't get it to work. Have you ever considered that maybe people just hate the business model or the way MLM works? While I don't hate it, I don't like the business model either and I certainly wouldn't knock on someone simply because they like it or hate it themselves. The reality is, as entrepreneurs, there are a few things every entrepreneur should seeks out. This includes, but is not limited to, doing something they love or like a lot and doing something that yields the greatest and fastest results. Base on these two facts alone, even if I was wildly successful with MLM, I wouldn't like it. Simply put, I'm not passionate about it and in my honest opinion, it's far from top of the list when it comes to fast results and greatest potential. It'd be nice to have at last one of the two met but neither in this case.

I agree with your opinion, and the little amount of respect I had for Donald Trump was lost the moment he endorsed ACN. I've written several times about MLM in this forum the last few days... it really irritates me the level some people go to make you fell stupid for not being in his or her program. They'll say 'it takes time and effort' to be successful, but then turn around say out of a script 'but if you stick it through you'll make it, I see potential in you'... now sign here and pay $XXX for your training packet.

I like the MLM model and commission structure, I just don't like the revenue source. I plan on changing that eh eh eh.

If MLM was illegal, these companies would be shut down by the government.

You're right, MLM is not technically illegal, but of all the "MLM Opportunities" how many are legal by way of regulation?

MLM Law - Lawyer Grimes & Reese PLLC - Attorney Specializing in Multilevel Marketing - Securities Law and MLM - What's the Deal?

Read that thoroughly and you'll see court cases of your "opportunities" testing the laws... It may not be illegal but it sure as ever is immoral.

it is of utmost importance that MLMs carefully design and implement their compensation and marketing plans to avoid leading distributors to anticipate profits based on the efforts of others.

LOL....

[nocci01]

Only a FEW in every industry make most of the money. Only people who have the skills/knowledge/will to succeed will ever make it in any industry. I know of countless reps that make 6 figures in MLM/Network Marketing.

Not everyone will succeed in almost anything in life. Some will...some won't...that's life! The point is...MLM is legitimate.

[nocci01]

BTW...if you're negative up there (your head)...you be'll negative down there (your pockets)...keep an open mind at least...if there are people making six figures annually...you can too...if anyone tells you it's easy or all it takes is luck...you're in it for a big surprise!!!

The big bananas in this industry paid the price. They made the sacrifices. They went to work!!! ...and instead of focusing on the nay-sayers...they focused on one thing...Success. That's why they have it and most don't.

[simplyfreegas]

Only a FEW in every industry make most of the money. Only people who have the skills/knowledge/will to succeed will ever make it in any industry. I know of countless reps that make 6 figures in MLM/Network Marketing.

Not everyone will succeed in almost anything in life. Some will...some won't...that's life! The point is...MLM is legitimate.

Lol... see my answer below.

BTW...if you're negative up there (your head)...you be'll negative down there (your pockets)...keep an open mind at least...if there are people making six figures annually...you can too...if anyone tells you it's easy or all it takes is luck...you're in it for a big surprise!!!

The big bananas in this industry paid the price. They made the sacrifices. They went to work!!! ...and instead of focusing on the nay-sayers...they focused on one thing...Success. That's why they have it and most don't.

The reason why THEY have success, is because THEY are at the top of their own little pyramid. Here's my question to you, and I want you to answer me because I'm curious now.

Of the "Reps" that are making 6 figures, can you explain the compensation plan to me? I want to know how many people they're crawling on to get that type of income. -- Am I saying that level of income is bad? NO... but I will bet you they are using that income as a marketing tool... self promotion. "I'm making $100,000 a year, and you can too!"

Look forward to your response.

Richard

[ciaossu]

BTW...if you're negative up there (your head)...you be'll negative down there (your pockets)...keep an open mind at least...if there are people making six figures annually...you can too...if anyone tells you it's easy or all it takes is luck...you're in it for a big surprise!!!

The big bananas in this industry paid the price. They made the sacrifices. They went to work!!! ...and instead of focusing on the nay-sayers...they focused on one thing...Success. That's why they have it and most don't.

I am keeping an open mind. As I've said, I've done MLM previously (and successfully) and I don't knock others for choosing to do MLM or anything else if that's their choice. The part I HIGHLY disagreed with you in regards to your argument was the simple fact that you used success as a reasoning for why people "hate" or not want to do MLM. That's a bullshit statement as I've proven in my last response. To be honest, 6 figures a year is a joke, especially for the amount of work most MLM people have to put in. If you like MLM because you're passionate about it, figures shouldn't matter anyway. If you like MLM because you think there is potential to make money and that's what you like doing, so be it. No one has the right to put you down or your opinion down on YOUR choice. More power to you on that. But the same goes for you with "respect" to others and their opinions.

Don't spread your bullshit and put other people down for their opinion as if you're suppose to convince them that you're right and they're wrong. There are no rights and wrongs when choosing what people like to do. Just because you may like it doesn't mean someone else will. Everyone is different and you should respect those differences. To each his own. I commend you for your effort but I think you need to re-evaluate the way you deliver your message. As I've said in my previous response, yes you can make money. But that isn't the only measure as to why people choose to want to do something or not want to. Irregardless, they are entitled to their opinion. No one has the right to say their opinion is better than that of another person because ultimately, that's all it is, is an opinion.

I agree you can make money with MLM (and with a billion other things shady or not). But as I've stated, it's not what I'm passionate about and more importantly, the potential and ROI is not there, as previously said.

[akula]

omg..not this again..
do we really need to discuss this?

[ciaossu]

omg..not this again..
do we really need to discuss this?

LOL You know it was bound to happen. With every forum, there is a high number of recurring type threads because people are too lazy to search or read up on existing threads. Lots of useless threads too.

[Will]

In the amount of time it takes a person doing MLM, even some of the fastest success stories I've heard, in order to reach a high volume person takes at least a few months if not much longer aka years. In the same time period you could be producing much greater returns doing other things. Why would I want to waste my time doing something that has less results in the end game. Let's give an example. Facebook. Took maybe 2 or 3 years before it received it's billion dollar valuation making the founder an instant massive multi-millionaire. Actually, Yahoo had a bid to buy it for $1.5Bn before any outside investment came in (except for Thiel). If he had sold, he would have been a billionaire. Find me an MLM person, any of them, that can produce results close to this in the same timeframe.

Haha, I am not a fan of MLM but how can you even compare that? Made me laugh.

Facebook is one of the internet's most successful startups to date, you need to understand that this is a one off, and MLM is absolutely more likely to make you some money, compared to copying something like Facebook, where you are more likely to make nothing.
Your comment 'Find me an MLM person, any of them, that can produce results close to this in the same timeframe.' - There is probably nothing else in history that has made someone go from 0-billionaire in that time frame.

[ciaossu]

Haha, I am not a fan of MLM but how can you even compare that? Made me laugh.

Facebook is one of the internet's most successful startups to date, you need to understand that this is a one off, and MLM is absolutely more likely to make you some money, compared to copying something like Facebook, where you are more likely to make nothing.
Your comment 'Find me an MLM person, any of them, that can produce results close to this in the same timeframe.' - There is probably nothing else in history that has made someone go from 0-billionaire in that time frame.

It's not a "one off" comparison. While Facebook is a "one off" in it's own category and I think anyone that wants to blindly just copy it would be complete dumbass, I was trying to illustrate a point which you completely missed apparently. It's not the fact that Facebook is wildly successful (I used a smaller example as well; mint.com), it's the fact that the potential is better in other business models (aka in this instance, startups; NOT Facebook itself). Let's face it, in the startup world, $10M is a joke much less mint's or Facebook's numbers BUT still a lot more than what MLMers make in general, even the top MLM guys. VCs fund more than $10M EVERYDAY much less think of a startup that produces or exit at this number. And there are hundreds of thousands of startups that have successfully profited or sold within a short timeframe if not millions (including ones that just operate and don't sell), many of which most of us never heard of. And the percentage of them doing well compare to the percentage of successful MLMers (not even including potential), I'd place my bets in startups.

Not only is the comparison day and night, it's retarded to think MLMers comes anywhere near that for the time you invest. But startups aren't the only business model that has a higher potential. That was merely one example. If you've read my blog, you'd know that I've lapped the millionaire milestone several times to know the possibility is there and on top of that, each time with a completely different business model (one of which I included an example of above) but among them also included a startup that generated millions in revenue and exited 2 years from start to finish. So I'm not just pulling examples out of my ass and name dropping random companies (was never the intention). They were simply easier to use because everyone is more familiar with them.

You also said that nothing else in history has made someone go from 0 to billionaire in that timeframe. I doubt that. YouTube was sold for $1.65Bn in 18 months, not even 2 years old. While the owners are not billionaires independently, collectively they were worth over $900M. I'm sure there are other companies and founders who have been superbly successful and to claim that no one else has reached that besides Zuckerberg would be a blind and ignorant statement. I'm sure there are and you just don't know it. But that's besides the point. The point was the potential is better in other things I for me, I would rather focus my time on those other things.

[simplyfreegas]

Copying Facebook exactly would be stupid yes, but the idea is not necessarily bad. Facebook may have started differently than Myspace, but you can't deny they decided to copy Myspace in terms of social networking and just do it BETTER. That is why I joined Facebook years ago. Every business makes mistakes or has flaws that OTHER businesses can improve upon.

As the Facebook privacy issue grew and grew, new startups emphasising privacy are already on their way. Will they be as successful as Facebook or more? I don't know...

But yes, comparing a start-up venture to that of following a MLM system (suckering other people in) is not comparable. That IS like comparing apples and oranges!

Richard