Why are people so stingy when it comes to their supplier contacts.

**ceo77** · 12-22-2007 10:07 AM

I hate when people talk about "their" wholesale suppliers, but don't want to give up info. I can see if you ask someone in person but on the internet? It's not like you're the "only" one doing business with them. If someone is struggling to find a connect in the same industry I'm working in, I would give them my supplier info. You would think people were selling cocaine they way they refuse to not speak about their supplier. You actually taking money out of the suppliers pockets.

**BusinessAdviser** · 12-22-2007 10:14 AM

The answer might lie in the laws of supply and demand. As demand for a supplier's product increases (which is evident to the supplier in the fact that buyer after buyer are contacting the supplier for the purpose of establishing a business contact), the price for that product will rise (because the supplier realizes that it can charge a higher price and still sell the product). This is no defense for people's unwillingness to share such contacts, but it is at least an explanation of why they may feel the need to keep such information to themselves - in order to protect their OWN business, whether you are able to see/appreciate that or not.

**ceo77** · 12-22-2007 11:17 AM

You both make good points, but It still doesn't make sense to me because of the internet and sites like ebay and craigslist, you're always going to deal with competition. Its not like you're asking for their market research or resources to gain an advantage. If im in new york and you're in california bragging about contacts why not post them? Either that or don't speak on it at all. Whats the point of even bringing it up?

**ltressel** · 12-22-2007 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by ceo77

I hate when people talk about "their" wholesale suppliers, but don't want to give up info. I can see if you ask someone in person but on the internet? It's not like you're the "only" one doing business with them. If someone is struggling to find a connect in the same industry I'm working in, I would give them my supplier info. You would think people were selling cocaine they way they refuse to not speak about their supplier. You actually taking money out of the suppliers pockets.

It's also because knowledge is wealth. If they are giving you information-it will not be free. It's their way of making money. Pay for their time and research and they will share you the info you need.

Isn't that how all the self-proclaimed gurus in any industry make money? Sorry to say people by nature is really motivated by "what's in it for me" notion. It's just a skewed ideal but it's reality.

LT

**bzboy** · 12-22-2007 09:27 PM

I agree as well. It also has to do with the fact that people spend tons of time doing research and they know what it takes and what they had to go through to get the information. Most people arent going to just give out free information like that after they are the ones who did the leg work. But there really isnt any point of bringing it up besides bragging I guess. Thats why I stay on the downlow. I still help people in any way I can, if I feel they have done research and the leg work themselves and they just need to be led in the right direction. But alot of people just want a "free pass" and in todays world thats not gonna fly

**Xanifur** · 12-23-2007 12:02 AM

Why should we up the competition for ourselves? It's like not attending a college class all semester, and asking for someones notes for the final exam. Think about it.

**malumu200** · 12-23-2007 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by ceo77

I hate when people talk about "their" wholesale suppliers, but don't want to give up info. I can see if you ask someone in person but on the internet? It's not like you're the "only" one doing business with them. If someone is struggling to find a connect in the same industry I'm working in, I would give them my supplier info. You would think people were selling cocaine they way they refuse to not speak about their supplier. You actually taking money out of the suppliers pockets.

Ceo,

Just curious what kind of suppliers are you looking for? In what industry?

**ceo77** · 12-24-2007 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by malumu200

Ceo,

Just curious what kind of suppliers are you looking for? In what industry?

right now i'm working towards being an authorized reseller for Apple and HP.

Consumer Electronics but for the most part it depends on the need. I export by country needs and stuff I specialize in but if its a big order then I'm on it. The last deal i closed was for a company that needed 30,000 Pentium 4 chips. It took me a month to find a supplier with the right price and all I did was add $1.25 to each chip which was my profit.

For people that say knowlege is wealth, thats bullsh1t. If that "Knowlege" was that valuble you wouldn't need to sell it.

**rogercbryan** · 12-24-2007 10:17 AM

It sounds like you already know how to get the right suppliers. Think about this. If I called you and needed 30K P4 Chips would you give me the number of your supplier or would you try to fill the order yourself (acting as a middle man/women).

Our suppliers are the life blood of our companies. Someday (if not already) they will be the same for you.

Originally Posted by ceo77

right now i'm working towards being an authorized reseller for Apple and HP.

Consumer Electronics but for the most part it depends on the need. I export by country needs and stuff I specialize in but if its a big order then I'm on it. The last deal i closed was for a company that needed 30,000 Pentium 4 chips. It took me a month to find a supplier with the right price and all I did was add $1.25 to each chip which was my profit.

For people that say knowlege is wealth, thats bullsh1t. If that "Knowlege" was that valuble you wouldn't need to sell it.

**BusinessAdviser** · 12-24-2007 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by ceo77

For people that say knowlege is wealth, thats bullsh1t. If that "Knowlege" was that valuble you wouldn't need to sell it.

For starters, this comment makes absolutely no sense at all. Knowledge is wealth BECAUSE you can sell it (or at least use it to create value).

Second, Roger is dead on. It's funny how you complain when people don't give you free access to the information that they spent time, effort, and money acquiring, but when you are faced with the same situation, you do the EXACT same thing. If you are really expecting people to give free access to their suppliers, then YOU should have been the FIRST person to simply introduce the supplier of the 30,000 chips to the buyer. Instead, you did EXACTLY what you are complaining about others doing. Interesting, huh?!

**ceo77** · 12-24-2007 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by rogercbryan

It sounds like you already know how to get the right suppliers. Think about this. If I called you and needed 30K P4 Chips would you give me the number of your supplier or would you try to fill the order yourself (acting as a middle man/women).

Our suppliers are the life blood of our companies. Someday (if not already) they will be the same for you.

I see your point but are you asking as another reseller/exporter or are you asking as an end user/consumer. If you're a consumer and you ask me for the number, sure I'd give it to you because enless you have a resale certificate and a EIN, they won't deal with you. If youre asking as another reseller, sure I'd give it to you, because chances are you're not trying to penetrate my market or take my customer's and even if you did I've been working with them so long I would only deal with my anyway which brings up another point.

People my think that by asking for suppliers you going to take their customers or potential customers away, which is not true. If you have good relationships with your consumers, they will show loyalty.

**BusinessAdviser** · 12-24-2007 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by ceo77

I see your point but are you asking as another reseller/exporter or are you asking as an end user/consumer. If you're a consumer and you ask me for the number, sure I'd give it to you because enless you have a resale certificate and a EIN, they won't deal with you. If youre asking as another reseller, sure I'd give it to you, because chances are you're not trying to penetrate my market or take my customer's and even if you did I've been working with them so long I would only deal with my anyway which brings up another point.

People my think that by asking for suppliers you going to take their customers or potential customers away, which is not true. If you have good relationships with your consumers, they will show loyalty.

You say that one should provide their list of suppliers to anyone who asks for that list, whether consumer or competitor. Let's have a little test of whether you actually practice what you preach. What do you say?!

Why don't you provide everyone here with a list of your suppliers and their contact info. If you do not wish to, provide a convincing argument as to why you should not.

**ceo77** · 12-24-2007 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by jmenq2

You say that one should provide their list of suppliers to anyone who asks for that list, whether consumer or competitor. Let's have a little test of whether you actually practice what you preach. What do you say?!

Why don't you provide everyone here with a list of your suppliers and their contact info. If you do not wish to, provide a convincing argument as to why you should not.

Sure,

I use MA LABS.com - the leading computer component distributor in the United States and Ingram Micro I'm also working on becoming an authrorized reseller of apple products. just go to apple.com and look up "reseller". I use to mess with Computer Reseller Internet Business Opportunities, Sell Computer Hardware Software Online, Resources Marketing Dealer Information ResellersOnly.com, but they are just middlemen. You can also go to Manhattan between 30th & Broadway, and from there you'll find a lot of people selling stuff for cheap, and from there start fishing. No numbers on that merchandise though, because they are so small. I'll see what I can do though. Good Luck.

As far as the people I sell to, that I can't tell you, but if my company blows up, you'll find out eventually.

**BusinessAdviser** · 12-24-2007 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by ceo77

...I'd give it to you, because chances are you're not trying to penetrate my market or take my customer's and even if you did I've been working with them so long I would only deal with my anyway which brings up another point.

People my think that by asking for suppliers you going to take their customers or potential customers away, which is not true. If you have good relationships with your consumers, they will show loyalty.

Let's find out how much you believe your own word. Why don't you provide a list of your customers. It will actually be a great way for you to find out whether you have good relationships with your consumers.

**ceo77** · 12-24-2007 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by jmenq2

Let's find out how much you believe your own word. Why don't you provide a list of your customers. It will actually be a great way for you to find out whether you have good relationships with your consumers.

my prized people are in Brazil, but thats a country thats hard to do business in so i'll make it easy for you. I use, worldbid.com and alibaba.com to find fresh clients. The power of the www has made connecting so much easier. This isn't rocket science. I didn't start this thread to go over customers. Why would you give up your customers? I was talking about suppliers..... suppliers...