The Next Blackwater

[Dealer27]

Blackwater employs mercenaries from all over the world and trains toops on its 7000 acre facility. With the advent of a possible new draft-or redraft, there is a huge market for troops. What would it take to employ 3rd world troops as mercenaries? The government sure would be interested in another blackwater. Given Erik Prince, the blackwater founder did start with unlimited capital, I believe people would invest in such a company. Any ideas guys?

[Paint and Air Sportz]

Theirs, nut just black water, their are tons of private mercanry companys in the US, at least 35+

[DrMoney]

wow......i am googling that shit

[DrMoney]

Ok, so Blackwater, has mercs and trains troops? and then employs them?

[Paint and Air Sportz]

Yup, its a huge billion dollar industry. Except most of private contracting/merc money goes to the companies that build infrastracture like haliburton, more then the companies that do Ops.

If you were to start such a company you would need a huge amount of capital, and a ton of expertise in all diffrent areas.

[DrMoney]

ya, check this out, 100b a year.

[sspoldir]

Billion dollar if you have connections. The individuals running these companies with contracts in Iraq are former military and pentagon people with connections.

Yup, its a huge billion dollar industry. Except most of private contracting/merc money goes to the companies that build infrastracture like haliburton, more then the companies that do Ops.

If you were to start such a company you would need a huge amount of capital, and a ton of expertise in all diffrent areas.

[WanganRunner]

PMC's are going to be huge in the 21st century.

This will be especially true in regards to the development, production, and deployment of unarmed combat machines (i.e. drones, robots, etc...)

This is where someone could make a lot of money very quickly, if they could get a technology on the ground that the US military would buy into.

Imagine thousands of "at home" soldiers, fighting war as a video game, remotely, through on-site unmanned weapons.

[paul2145r]

Only problem is, the US government often doesn't "buy into" tech- they "Buy Out". If you have a project that can be deemed of critical military value, they can often buy you out and shut you down, letting their own engineers take over. I was in the Army- I saw how they handled delegating work to third parties. BTW- the US Military disdains most mercenaries. Many of these people are thugs that went off the grid on bad terms w/ their superiors- so keep that in mind. Also- know what you're getting into. This is an industry based on coercion and gaining the upper hand. Assasinations and 'mistakes' are frequent- you just won't hear much about them.

If you do go ahead and try to get something set up- take a look into the Russian Spetznaz program, and some of the other high-end training programs that fell apart with the 'reclassification' of the Russian military. Many of these men were trained to kill from their youth, and then thrown out after the military decided that they were no longer an asset. Many of these men currently inhabit the U.S. and other friendly nations, with nothing to do but work for fast food. Find yourself an alumnus or some1 that was once on the inside, and talk about money. As far as money- you'll need alot of it. Expect $100,000 + per experienced trained merc. I know that there are a lot of numbers floating around up there, but you'll be hardpressed to find people that you can trust for anything less. Just remember- Haliburton pays better than just about any other company in their field- How are you going to convince their people to come over to your side. Many that are left in the private (Non-Hali) side are people that they had said no to. Do you honestly want someone that a multi-billion dollar company decided was psychologically unfit? Lol... Anyways, good luck if any1 decides to pursue this venture.

[WanganRunner]

Only problem is, the US government often doesn't "buy into" tech- they "Buy Out". If you have a project that can be deemed of critical military value, they can often buy you out and shut you down, letting their own engineers take over.

Yeah, that's the problem.

I think that gradually, as the American populace loses more and more of their tolerance for casualties, this will change.

The short-term solution would, I suppose, be to set up shop legally outside of the United States, and then try to sell to our allies first.

If the US military sees the French or the Japanese fielding cheaper robotic forces that don't make the news when they get blown up, they might be persuaded.

I've always thought that at least in regards to material, a largely private-sector military is a good idea. It would still get paid for with tax dollars and be supervised by the same people in the government, but it would be operated more efficiently.

What kind of "mistakes"? Are you saying that the US military assassinates defense contractors?