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    Money VS Power

    Hello everyone,

    I'm new here but lets see if there are some people with similar views to my own.

    I am building a group with a financial base, to finance lareg humanitarian projects.

    40% of all profits are divided between staff, equaly in all divisions, meaning I retain the best possible people.

    20% retained by for investment and growth

    40% Used for humanitarian projects.

    I rescued children from the sex trade, it's a hard line subject but I have done it for a long time.

    The only solution to this, is POWER.

    I am starting something called GEB, Global Energy Bank more information is avalible after an NDA but in essence it's intent is to change global living and governement by providing FREE energy to everyone.

    Launching in 2015, using green tech.

    This might sound like a made idea, but it is far from that, I have people who work on other projects for me, who have very good credentials.

    Capitalism needs to exists, there is no changing that, but we can have an undelying factor of FREE energy to everyone, the target being 2050 latest, but starting in 2015 and by 2030 we hope to have most countries involved.

    As far as scope goes, I do not know of any current project to rivals this on scale.

    Just think about it, think about how famine and war would be reduced.....

    Free energy and later free water, are two things I personaly believe all should have the right to.

    If governments are to slow to act, then it's time to work without them.

    Good for me, the countries I have chosen to work with first are happy about this..... it takes one country to be onbaord, as everyone else will follow...

    Imagine if your neighbour country had free energy, would someone be elected back into power unless they supported this for it's citizens?

    I would very much like to see the minds in this group, to talk with you and have some involved in this.... it's to big for me on my own and my other projects, not as big, but just as driven.

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    So, who will finance the costs to provide free energy and water to everyone?
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    Not only would governments be slow to take on this free energy policy, but they would fight it. The people that sell the energy (oil,etc..) and the people that run the government are one in the same.
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    It's huge in every essence of the world, but the marketing campaign I launch in 2015 will generate the money needed.
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    Yes they will fight it, the problem for them is this. Why would a 3rd world country fight this? then you have a situation where 3rd world economy starts to get better anbd people more healthy and then people in a developed country say 'Hey, why don't we have that'
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    why do you have to wait until 2015 to get started?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanwhiteorchid View Post
    Yes they will fight it, the problem for them is this. Why would a 3rd world country fight this? then you have a situation where 3rd world economy starts to get better anbd people more healthy and then people in a developed country say 'Hey, why don't we have that'
    Ryan,

    I shared your post with a friend of mine who is an investor in solar power projects for use in refugee camps. The clients of her companies include Oxfam, the UN, Red Crescent and Red Cross, etc. I asked her to review your posts.

    She responded in basically the same way I did: These posts are disjointed and delusional. She's never heard of any such proposal with any of the green energy firms working with international refugees. The posts do not follow the language or terms used by people in green energy working in the third world. The posts reference nonsensical things like,
    "40% of all profits are divided between staff, equaly in all divisions, meaning I retain the best possible people.
    20% retained by for investment and growth
    40% Used for humanitarian projects."
    Yet when it comes to the task at hand, THAT is covered by NDA.

    Your wrap rate, essentially discoverable from the above calculations, is MORE proprietary than anything else, yet you had no qualms posting that in a public forum. That shows a marked disconnect from business. Not "new thinking" but "not thinking, oops I made a huuuge mistake." A mistake that my competitors can use to drive me out of the market.

    I don't mean delusional as in "so crazy it just might work" I mean delusional as in, I've created a solution based on theories with no experience and no science behind it because I'm on a mission to save people.

    Please, please, I ask you as a friend, talk to your doctor about your theories and plans and see what they say. Set up an appointment and run all your theories through them and see if they have any suggestions of people to talk to.

    I've seen your youtube videos. You cannot pretend they don't exist or that someone else made them who is pretending to be you.

    If my response gets me banned here then so be it. If I save a life, then I've done my duty as a human being. This is not the first time I've run across this sort of thing online and in fact, just last week my wife met someone on one of her mailing lists who was in a similar situation and I believe my wife made a difference in this person's life. That person knew the difference between fact and fiction and they knew they talked so much about their inner life that they lost track of their outer life. It's ok, it happens, and there is lots of advice available for reconnecting with your outer life.

    I think you need to settle down and think about everything you posted here: The theories, your role as savior, and these people who work for you. Why you wrote it. What role you want us to play in all this. And talk to someone about it.

    If you want to pursue this discussion, Ryan, an investor will want to talk to you about these kinds of issues:

    1. Name three foreign governments that you've worked with professionally and name references at specific agencies within those governments who will discuss their country's investment with you to any potential investor who calls.
    2. If you live in the US, name the office of your main contact within the Bush Administration, name the office of your main contact within the UN, name the office of 2 major NGOs you're working with.
    3. They will sign no NDA, period, if you aren't ready to go public, you aren't ready for investment.
    4. Name three references in energy companies who have completed, not discussed, international projects with you.
    5. Lastly, demonstrate in-person the working proof of concept of this technology.

    I really hope you use this time to think over the posts you left on this board, ok? I think it's time to talk to someone about all your energy theories.

    I mean, your post here is very telling:
    "Why would a 3rd world country fight this?"
    As someone who worked with the US state department, I can name 25-30 reasons they might fight it.
    1. You aren't Muslim
    2. There is an embargo against companies from your country
    3. The technology you suggest will affect something cultural, religious, or aesthetic they don't want changed
    4. The government owns the energy resources and makes tax money off those sources
    5. You aren't offering them enough money/bribes on top of free energy
    6. You don't have enough investment to manage this after installation
    7. They struck a deal with another country for that country to do this earlier than 2015

    as I said, I could come up 25 reasons why that question was idiotic and unprofessional. Can you tell me why you posted such a thing? You are aware, right, that neighboring countries in Africa have blown up oil refinery pipelines JUST BECAUSE they were making the neighboring countries wealthier, right? Rebel groups kidnap foreign energy workers all the time. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19718037/

    I guess what I want to say is, without appearing nasty or condescending, your behavior appears to an outsider to be irrational. You should get it corroborated with your doctor for your sake. because if these ideas are irrational, it won't take long to get back on track.
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    ryan, I agree with silversurfer

    i've looked at your site/video and it's quite clear that you're losing grip on reality

    try to spend some time away from the computer and other places which are encouraging you to think up these fantasies about setting up paramilitary gangs and buying tropical islands
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    Hello,

    I will try to answer this to my best, but do not insult me by calling me delusional or anything similar.

    The Panama Canal, The Car, The First Flight....... What would you have said about them? I'm also not comparing myself to anyone that achieved these.

    1. The NDA covers knowledge about specifics with GEB and other parts of what I do, those who work with me Vary from a PHD grad in Molecular Biology to an architect to a teachers who has written US law, if they have signed these NDA's and stayed with me, maybe there is a reason.

    2. Your colleague works in the 3rd word, so do, so by your assumption those people in the 3rd world working on things in green energy do talk laike this as I do.

    3. All divisions are separate

    4. If my competitors give 40% of profits to all staff and 40% of all profit to humanitarian projects, why would I have any problem with this? This is a principle I hope everyone adopts.

    5. No science just theory, I would suggest you speak to professors at your local University about the affects of a country with free energy. I do not work on anything with doing the appropriate research or having the appropriate links.

    6. 'talk to your doctor about' My state of mind is fine, I do not insult people before I hear them out and lack any imagination and class myself as an Entrepreneur. My background is in extensive business, child rescue and humanitarian.

    7. "I've seen your you tube videos. You cannot pretend they don't exist or that someone else made them who is pretending to be you."

    Why would I deny videos placed on MY blog which I refer to myself as speaking.

    Are you deliberately trying to bring me down, as I can give you links to people with the same opinions as you, LIMITED.

    8. I am no savior.

    9. "I would very much like to see the minds in this group, to talk with you and have some involved in this.... it's to big for me on my own and my other projects, not as big, but just as driven."

    I'm very clear what i am here for in this group.

    10. I have not asked for investors, as It is not something needed.

    11. When you understand anything about what I do, then you sign an NDA, if you do not wish to, I have no problem with that. A lot of firms have signed NDA's with me, some want to work with me and some do not.

    12. What technology do I need to demonstrate, do your own research into Solar power towers and new tidal tech, that's just two forms.

    13. I am English, I'm not Muslim but thank you for the seed you plant in people to read. Your not an idiot I can see, you have something called 'Blinkered View'.


    You do not understand how I will achieve this, and neither will you, I have tried to answer your concerns without being insulting while being insulted.

    14. I am aware of many things and concerns you have are concerns of someone who has not thought or done his/her research.


    15. I explain many things all on the FAQ section of the Blog but for the Free energy, I am simply looking for intelligent people to help it along.

    Ryan
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    2015 is when I launch a marketing campaign.
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