Investors help me please

[Cemiko]

Since this is my very first post I will need to express my need for serious investors right away.

I have a plan that will undoubtly rock the world. For this I need an investor who is willing to invest not only big amounts of money but is willing to use some of his/her business contacts. I wont be sitting at home while others work for me I can guarentee that.

I allready had contact with several big names in about htis idea but the reactions weren't satisfying for me. Now this is the first time I try finding investors over the internet.

I have done my research and have several business plans made over this idea. I have contacted several different companies just to have them know my name. (offcourse I didnt prank call or something like that )

If you are an investor that is interested then we need to do talk. But I wont talk over the chat to anybody and I wont be talking to somebody on the phone neither. If you interested you will have to come to me or provide me with the means to visit you. Thats all I demand. I currently live in the Netherlands, Europe but moving away would be no problem if my investor demands that from me.

The investor will get a share of 49% of the eventual company or the product.
I say this now and will state this every time asked.

The idea will make use of the following media;

Television
Mobile television
SMS
Internet
Radio
Papers
Own magazine ( the program will be supported by a magazine people can read)

Profit will be made out of the following things ;

Merchandise
Selling key figures in the organization
Venue
SMS
Mobile television
Sponsoring
Selling the idea to different countries

The first year of the idea will be the year that will have the most impact since I plan to make use of regional places to recruit players for this program.
Using regional places will bring the program closer to the people and therefore more interesting for them to watch, attend etc.

If you are an investor or know and investor that is interested please do not to hesitate to contact me. I will assure that this idea is the one idea that stands out.

Regards,

Cem Kumlar

[Cemiko]

no reply yet ?

[shawnman19]

How much capital have you decided that you need to start? Give people an idea of how much equity they will get for there money.

Do you already have a company started?

Have you started/ran a company in the past that would show you have experience in this business?

[MsNadi]

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[Satch]

Maybe it would be helpful if you actually said something about what the company does! And you've said it will make use of the many media forms (including TV, radio, internet etc). What do you mean by that? I don't understand, will you use them to advertise or what? Regards.

[MsNadi]

If (s)he honestly plans to make use of all those different forums of media, the capital required would have to be in the multi-millions (i'm thinking $20-$30MM).

At the same token - the post wreaks of a lack of focus. Sure, all ideas have extensions and offshoots. What's the core concept. Who cares if you can eventually move IT into all these different markets. If you can't get IT to be successful in its initial market (whatever IT may be), then the investors will pass.

Check out Guy Kawasaki's blog on Venture Capital and Venture Seekers.

You should be able to hook investors with simple words and phrases - I'm still working on THAT pitch.

[Cemiko]

The reason why I dont want explain the total idea is because I am terrified that someone with money will use it without me getting credits for it.
I can assure you that this idea is like nothing done before. I just need someone I can trust with this

[chopper]

This isn;t the best place to look for investors. You need to describe your business plan, give forcasts, and stuff like that..but you can't incase someone pinches your idea..
I understand you don't want to tell people you idea, but your not going to get an investor unless you do that, so this forum won't get you an investor.
Just saying that the idea is unique, has never been done before and whatever else will not get somebody to part with their money on a wim. But certainly don't give your idea if you think that it will be stolen..
Try and approach a potential investor, or somebody that has a company that invests in businesses , but if you do make sure you have a solid busines plan, you have realistic cash flow forcasts and you know who your market is.

[Cemiko]

Chopper,

Thanks for your advice.
I tried to get in contact with a few potential investors and some tell me they are not planning on exploring that part of business or dont have time to invest. Some dont even reply to me at all. Thats the most frustrating. If I could afford it to contact overseas investors or somebody would be willing to get me in contact with real life investors things would be going much smoother.
I am willing to give a hint on what the product is; Football/Soccer.
Thats the key word in the whole plan. Football over here in Europe is as much worth to people as the NFL is in the US. We adore our players and we support our clubteams with all our passion. Taking this in consideration I came up with this idea. Because football is ruled by people with money but no sense for the game loads of people get annoyed by being treated as a cash cow. I want to turn the roles and give the people the game back.

I hope someone on this board/forum can help me get in contact with an investor who is having a couple of million bucks laying around

[chopper]

If your looking for that much, you will need a SERIOUSLY rich investor.
How much equity is for sale at that much money?

[akula]

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cute

no, possibly there won't be any world rocking tonight..sigh...

cemiko - you're here to learn, so please let me give you some feedback

you have absolutely no idea what you're doing

if you want to finance a company, you may need to ask questions like "how do I finance a company?", rather than saying things like "The investor will get a share of 49%". He who has the gold makes the rules - and you don't have any gold, so you're not in a position to make any kinds of demands.

Anyhow...having asked the question....In some extreme circumstances (not in your circumstances), after eliminating all other options, the entrepreneur may come to the conclusion that private equity is an appropriate form of expansion capital for their growth company which is seeking to go public in the immediate future.

at this stage however, word's like venture capital shouldn't even be in your vocabulary.

what you should be interested in, is doing customer surveys and extensive sessions of begging people for trade credit.

[akula]

don't you guys get sick of living in the fantasy world

all this cloak and dagger stuff

people pinching ideas

squabbles over business plans

all of these things don't matter one iota of difference

just pick up the phone and sell some stuff

everything else will take care of itself

[chem]

I feel begging is the wrong route to getting an investor. It makes you look weak and makes you look like you DEFIANTLY need an investor to get your business going. This will put the investor in a position to set higher demands because you NEED him/her.

[NeeJam]

For a couple of million bucks your going to have to show them a high % rate for ROI becuase no one is going to invest a few million bucks unless they are going to make a nice profit or % extra i.e more then they will if they just left it in their swiss bank account.

Also as you haven't actually put a value on the 49% i.e 2 million, 3 million etc then you aren't looking very promising to potential investors! You need to sort out your pitch slightly basically adjusting it! Making sure your giving out some information about your idea before your asked about details etc. Also you need a figure and then you need reasons to justify it becuase if you value 49% at 2 million lets say your valuing your whole idea with no revenue(i'm guessing) over the 4 million mark. Thats about 2.1 million for 51% of your idea.

Now to determine the value of a business prior to investment in the investors eyes aka ''pre-money value'' So its 49% for 2 million(you said a couple of mill) whats the total? Just over 4 mill. Then taking away the investment itself, are you worth approx 2.1 million as they are investing in you as well? Now thats the answer that the investor will have to answer too!

So if they think your worth over 2.1 million and for the idea as well and you have a good pitch them you will get the investment, but not until then!

[Cemiko]

WOW thanks for your help guys
Actually the 49% share is more in the meaning of ever 100 cent we earn the investor gets 49 cents ....
This sounds cheap, but i can guarentee that anyone who sees the business plan will offer all his available money to help.
If I only had 10k myself I would find investors on my own.