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Old 07-27-2007, 11:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Inc. Question?

I have a business that I want to tradmark as ____ ____ inc entertainment. (Sorry for the blanks, I really love the name, don't want to lose it.) I want to form an LLC though.Is that possible. Example: Murder Inc Records I pretty sure they are an LLC. Even better case is that there now called The Inc Records.
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check out uspto.gov Also, it's been awhile, but I'm fairly certain you cannot have the word Inc or Corp, unless you are incorporated.
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also, you can't have a word after the INC, or LLC, or whatever, like "16bars, Inc. Entertainment".

Also, you really don't have to register the whole name of the company, like "16Bars, Inc.", unless if you just want to trademark register the name, example "16Bars".
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also, you can't have a word after the INC, or LLC, or whatever, like "16bars, Inc. Entertainment".

Also, you really don't have to register the whole name of the company, like "16Bars, Inc.", unless if you just want to trademark register the name, example "16Bars".
Can I still use inc in letterheads,business cars and my website even if i just register 16bars?
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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some people do, but then it's not legit, because you have not incorporated or organized your business under any state.

You can easily incorporate your business with any state under less than $140 plus state fees with LegalZoom.com
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Wouldn't think it's legal to use those without being registered.

http://www.mycorporation.com/ is a pretty trusted source for incorporation, though, but their rates are high compared to the previous link (it's around $1000 or so, last time I tried it out)
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If you are going to spend $1000, you might as well hire an attorney to do it, it will be the same price. Legal Zoom is a lot cheaper, but nothing compares to actual advice coming from an attorney sitting across the desk from you.

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Old 07-28-2007, 11:47 AM   #8 (permalink)
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only hire an attorney if you don't know what you're doing. A lawyer will charge you more. In 1998 I hired a lawyer to incorporate a company in my state and he charged me $2,500, and now that I know how to do my own incorporation, write my own articles of incorporation, resolutions and bylaws, i only have lawyers go over whatever I am doing to check for errors, etc., and that saves me a lot of money.

The best thing to do is incorporate through The Company Corporation at www.incorporate.com, and no, I am not an affiliate.

The best thing about using the Company Corporation is that you can incorporate in any state, if other than yours, and they will be your registered agent.

They charge almost the same price anyhow, max $600, depends on what package you've selected.

This is my favorite company, I have been using them since 1994.

They have been in business since 1899.
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Consult an attorney, its probably a good idea...
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only hire an attorney if you don't know what you're doing. A lawyer will charge you more. In 1998 I hired a lawyer to incorporate a company in my state and he charged me $2,500, and now that I know how to do my own incorporation, write my own articles of incorporation, resolutions and bylaws, i only have lawyers go over whatever I am doing to check for errors, etc., and that saves me a lot of money.

The best thing to do is incorporate through The Company Corporation at www.incorporate.com, and no, I am not an affiliate.

The best thing about using the Company Corporation is that you can incorporate in any state, if other than yours, and they will be your registered agent.

They charge almost the same price anyhow, max $600, depends on what package you've selected.

This is my favorite company, I have been using them since 1994.

They have been in business since 1899.

I'm sorry to say this, but you got ripped off, unless there are some details you are leaving out. I have never heard of an attorney charging more than $1500 for legal formation of a business, unless its a special situation. Most charge a flat rate of $750 to $1500 (depending on the attorney) to do this type of thing since most of the paperwork is a cookie cutter process to them.

Even though I'm an affiliate of legal zoom, I would never use them or any other company for legal formation of a business unless that was the only thing you could afford. I would always suggest using an attorney. An attorney will back you up if something goes wrong, these formation companies won't.

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