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    How to invest in the stock market?

    hi everyone,

    I had a question about investing money in the stock market. If I only have a small amount of money to invest in the stock market, what would you guys suggest investing in?

    Another question, what is the best way to invest? (Like online, on an investing website)

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman2181 View Post
    hi everyone,

    I had a question about investing money in the stock market. If I only have a small amount of money to invest in the stock market, what would you guys suggest investing in?

    Another question, what is the best way to invest? (Like online, on an investing website)

    Thanks.
    good question

    I'm a licensed financial planner, with over 5 years experience in trading securities

    Given that you have long term financial objectives, my advice to you is to read the 12 steps, call one of the advisors listed on the site and use their services to leverage into a portfolio of tax effective index funds

    listen to me carefully - print out the documents, read them, follow what I'm saying to and your risk adjusted returns are mathematically guaranteed to beat the returns of all those stock picking hacks

    follow the scientists, use the systems devised by Nobel laureates, do what I'm saying to you and you're gonna be fine

    fail to follow my advise, and you will be suffering risk adjusted losses and opportunity costs, for the reasons described in the books I’ve linked you to
    Last edited by akula; 08-13-2007 at 01:09 AM.

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    I used to work for the Vanguard group so of course I am going to recommend mutual funds. First of all how little to you have to invest? If you have less than 2000 keep saving. If you have more read on.

    Here are a few funds with wonderful fund managers
    wintergreen fund
    third avenue value
    try to get some sort of international fund. Vanguard has several that have done top notch.

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    and I am personally invested in those 2 funds I mentioned. I think the minimium investment in the thrid avenue value fund is 10,000 now, cant rememeber. I have had a 3 year 45% return on that one fund.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamarsh View Post
    I have had a 3 year 45% return on that one fund.
    Are you sure you got that right? That's a bit high....
    A great resource to find real wholesalers! Avoid the middle man! http://www.ProductSourcingMethods.com/

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    yes you can look it up . Try third ave value in google and see if you can get a 5 year return. I got in at a good time back in 2002.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akula View Post
    listen to me carefully - print out the documents, read them, follow what I'm saying to and your risk adjusted returns are mathematically guaranteed to beat the returns of all those stock picking hacks

    follow the scientists, use the systems devised by Nobel laureates, do what I'm saying to you and you're gonna be fine

    First off there are no guarantees in the securities market. Secondly, scientists, nobel laureates doesn't necessarily mean much either. See the LTCM debacle in 98. That fund was ran by THE top scholars in Finance in the world and it was a major disaster.

    You can also see it right now in the alternative investment industry. The models that they are using to manage their funds are flawed and as a result their returns have been terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eich41 View Post
    First off there are no guarantees in the securities market. Secondly, scientists, nobel laureates doesn't necessarily mean much either. See the LTCM debacle in 98. That fund was ran by THE top scholars in Finance in the world and it was a major disaster.
    The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent

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    How about options?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eich41 View Post
    First off there are no guarantees in the securities market. Secondly, scientists, nobel laureates doesn't necessarily mean much either. See the LTCM debacle in 98. That fund was ran by THE top scholars in Finance in the world and it was a major disaster.

    You can also see it right now in the alternative investment industry. The models that they are using to manage their funds are flawed and as a result their returns have been terrible.
    Okey dokey,

    I welcome your attempt to make a point

    Show me a statistically significant bit of evidence for rejecting the following hypothesis;

    "A portfolio of tax effective, passively managed funds will always outperform a portfolio of actively managed funds over a 7-20 year period".

    My evidence for supporting the hypothesis is located in the pages I've linked to. Where is your evidence?

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    if you want to get your incoming steady increaseing,you'd better invest funds...
    of course if you want to get more,you can do it yourself,but you will undertake more risk,which depends on you!

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    one of the latest papers i've read about trading securities is legg mason's, turtles in omaha

    check it out. it's good. very good. much better than schumi's ramblings.

    the points the paper makes are extremely important.

    http://www.leggmason.com/funds/knowl...rtlesOmaha.pdf

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