Everyone is Lying?

[DrMoney]

Really... I am upset... Everyone has know morals anymore. Everyone is trying to get theirs, and screwing everyone else.

I mean I know this is America, and everyone has the American Dream, But really...

I mean, Lets take Obama for instance... What Was the slogan....I think it went like "Change we can believe in," But he hasyet to prove to me that this is true; hes been like everyone else... Lying... If you don't believe me Watch this video, and hear it for yourself.

Through his campaign, he has lied several times, and this my friends, is the highlight reel.


In the US where the Middle Class gets turned to lower class, and more millionaires are created than ever before, their is so much lying and cheating going on, I don't know what to do.

I mean, take the Military for example, the recruiters job, is to #%&* you out of as much programs, and money as they can, to save the government money, and they get paid for doing so.

Don't take what they say about not getting bonuses to the heart. They are lying.

Everyone in the military wants the recruiting job because it pays so well, AKA between 2-6k per new recruit, and sometimes even as high as 9k.
Of course it depends, how much they #$%& you out of.

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Then their is the The lying conglomerate U.S Media, WOW, Really? Ya 67% of people say they don't trust the Media, and after you think about it, I think 100% of people shouldn't.
Check this video out, and it will add a little more Spice to what I am saying.

But really the executives, create the Media, and because they all know each other, and go to the same functions, its like a group of people truly run America.

Illuminati Perhaps?

Masons?

Its questionable...


But then the American People...

The heart and soul of the Country, lying daily, scamming... I mean jeez Madoff. WTF.


I think it is safe to say that America is Royally *&&#^Q##@, and that we need a moral makeover.

Can I get an A'men?

[Dmoore323]

Listen man this happens every time theres a new president, people go back to elections and compare and contrast. So far Obama has been very truthful. He promised to shut down Guantanamo Bay, did it. Promised he would come out with this stimulus plan, did it. I hate how people say he wasn't about war and now is deciding to put more troops in Afghanistan. He is was always for fighting the Al-Queda. His opinions and thoughts are going to change throughout his presidency based on founded knowledge. I mean he surrounds himself in his cabinet with a lot of intelligent people really. They heavily influence his ideas, theres nothing wrong with that, thats what there supposed to do.

And for the media...well just be lucky, we honestly have the most truthful media compared to most countries. CNBC is a great source so is CNN. It's honeslty that news programs are built around two sides, just like our law system, just like our politics, hence democrats and republicans. Unfortunately its the way things work there will always be oppositions.

[ZingerIntl]

And for the media...well just be lucky, we honestly have the most truthful media compared to most countries. CNBC is a great source so is CNN. It's honeslty that news programs are built around two sides, just like our law system, just like our politics, hence democrats and republicans. Unfortunately its the way things work there will always be oppositions.

What the F@#$% country are you living in?

Ya because the people are never mislead. Take a look at who owns these wonderful media centers... you know the barfing drunk girl at the party, that you wish would just shut up and F@#$ off... Thats FOX, CNBC, CNN, ABC, etc. The only two telling the truth are John Stewart and Stephen Colbert because they know their material is a lie. At least they are not lying to themselves.

[ZingerIntl]

I love the Obama defense tho DMoore... Hes been in office 3 weeks and this kids cutting him down because he has not saved the world yet.

Did anyone see what Obama has done on a personal, individual level for people... A middle aged single mother lossing her home, told Obama to help, he got her an entire house to live in til she is back on her feet. That crazy, sketchy man, wanted to get a real job, quit mcdonalds... Obama got him an internship at some radio station. He is actually doing an amazing job for the sh!t, that George @$$ cloWn Bush left him in.

[Nordstrom]

"A man who is not ready to die for what he believes in - is not a man at all"

All you can do is try to surround yourself with people sharing your beliefs and praising the ones you meet with the same ones. The majority of the people in this world, has their own life as the number 1 reason for everything. Hence they will do wrong when put in a situation where it is their life or act "wrong".

Conclusion="A man who is not ready to die for what he believes in - is not a man at all"=No moral.

[Nordstrom]

And for the media...well just be lucky, we honestly have the most truthful media compared to most countries. CNBC is a great source so is CNN. It's honeslty that news programs are built around two sides, just like our law system, just like our politics, hence democrats and republicans. Unfortunately its the way things work there will always be oppositions.

Dmoore, I have had respect for your previous posts on this forum....but that was one of the most absurd thing I have ever heard. What are you using to think with???? You are claiming that someone as far to one side(the other side is the "opponents" Russia, Iran etc) will have the MOST truthful media.

That is most probably the most indoctrinated someone can possibly say. I read the news from US, Russia, Ukraine and Sweden on a daily basis. Even Sweden who are USA:s little puppet is EXTREMELY biased with their reports. The country which has the best media-coverage in the world is Ukraine. This is due to the fact that they get sides for Russia, and the west and also due to the obvious difference a "neutral" middle.

USA has as poor of a media as China or Russia when it comes to the really political issues. There is a reason why the general consensus is that media rules the world, as it is the main effect on the minds.

[Dmoore323]

Dmoore, I have had respect for your previous posts on this forum....but that was one of the most absurd thing I have ever heard. What are you using to think with???? You are claiming that someone as far to one side(the other side is the "opponents" Russia, Iran etc) will have the MOST truthful media.

That is most probably the most indoctrinated someone can possibly say. I read the news from US, Russia, Ukraine and Sweden on a daily basis. Even Sweden who are USA:s little puppet is EXTREMELY biased with their reports. The country which has the best media-coverage in the world is Ukraine. This is due to the fact that they get sides for Russia, and the west and also due to the obvious difference a "neutral" middle.

USA has as poor of a media as China or Russia when it comes to the really political issues. There is a reason why the general consensus is that media rules the world, as it is the main effect on the minds.

Well first off thanks. But I mean listen the media in this country is getting better. Networks like CNBC give good financial and stock coverage with shows like Fast Money and Jim Cramers Mad Money. Jim Cramer is actually reall opinionated about his comments, he speaks the truth in every aspect. He's a smart man who is probably the best hedge fund manager of our time. And CNN I feel sheds light on a lot of the current events issues of the world, like famines and wars in other countries that channels like Fox choose to ignore. I do believe our media coverage is above China and Russia's, the Chinese government blocks several political addressing websites, and limits its peoples sources a lot. And as for Russia, go there, the people are even scared to talk out against the government and there current economic issues. That certainly is a reflection of the media there. And even if you do think it provides its people with good media coverage it doesn't for the outside world and thats just as bad.

But don't get me wrong I mean I agree that the media in US holds back on talking about governmental aspects. Read the book the Pale Horse by William Cooper, it talks about the JFK, 9/11, and UFO conspiracies. It will change your whole perspective on those matters. But as a whole in terms of free speech, interaction, thing likes current events and all that, it's really not that bad.

[Nordstrom]

What makes a media bad or good is not whether it displays news-events around the world...but HOW it portrays them. The US media is pro-US and anti-opponent, that is a total truth that goes with all countries who are on one side of an event. The comparison with Russia and China was only general, in the means that they to have a very basic need of making their opponents look bad.

"But I mean listen the media in this country is getting better" - I agree with this though this is far from your first statement. I take it as an exageration "world best media" and that you did not really think about what you were actually stating.

But again, USA's media is closer to the bottom of the Western Society, than the top.

[Gene]

You got an Amen right here!

Really... I am upset... Everyone has know morals anymore. Everyone is trying to get theirs, and screwing everyone else.

I mean I know this is America, and everyone has the American Dream, But really...

I mean, Lets take Obama for instance... What Was the slogan....I think it went like "Change we can believe in," But he hasyet to prove to me that this is true; hes been like everyone else... Lying... If you don't believe me Watch this video, and hear it for yourself.

Through his campaign, he has lied several times, and this my friends, is the highlight reel.


In the US where the Middle Class gets turned to lower class, and more millionaires are created than ever before, their is so much lying and cheating going on, I don't know what to do.

I mean, take the Military for example, the recruiters job, is to #%&* you out of as much programs, and money as they can, to save the government money, and they get paid for doing so.

Don't take what they say about not getting bonuses to the heart. They are lying.

Everyone in the military wants the recruiting job because it pays so well, AKA between 2-6k per new recruit, and sometimes even as high as 9k.
Of course it depends, how much they #$%& you out of.

u

Then their is the The lying conglomerate U.S Media, WOW, Really? Ya 67% of people say they don't trust the Media, and after you think about it, I think 100% of people shouldn't.
Check this video out, and it will add a little more Spice to what I am saying.

But really the executives, create the Media, and because they all know each other, and go to the same functions, its like a group of people truly run America.

Illuminati Perhaps?

Masons?

Its questionable...


But then the American People...

The heart and soul of the Country, lying daily, scamming... I mean jeez Madoff. WTF.


I think it is safe to say that America is Royally *&&#^Q##@, and that we need a moral makeover.

Can I get an A'men?

[Gaulkin]

Well first off thanks. But I mean listen the media in this country is getting better. Networks like CNBC give good financial and stock coverage with shows like Fast Money and Jim Cramers Mad Money. Jim Cramer is actually reall opinionated about his comments, he speaks the truth in every aspect. He's a smart man who is probably the best hedge fund manager of our time. And CNN I feel sheds light on a lot of the current events issues of the world, like famines and wars in other countries that channels like Fox choose to ignore. I do believe our media coverage is above China and Russia's, the Chinese government blocks several political addressing websites, and limits its peoples sources a lot. And as for Russia, go there, the people are even scared to talk out against the government and there current economic issues. That certainly is a reflection of the media there. And even if you do think it provides its people with good media coverage it doesn't for the outside world and thats just as bad.

But don't get me wrong I mean I agree that the media in US holds back on talking about governmental aspects. Read the book the Pale Horse by William Cooper, it talks about the JFK, 9/11, and UFO conspiracies. It will change your whole perspective on those matters. But as a whole in terms of free speech, interaction, thing likes current events and all that, it's really not that bad.

Jim Cramer is garbage and this prove you know nothing about the stock market. You want to make money? Do the opposite of everything Jim Cramer tells you to do. CNBC is also known for pump and dump, these guys that come on and recommend stocks do it for one reason and that is to pump the stock up so they can dump it on you.

[Dmoore323]

Jim Cramer is garbage and this prove you know nothing about the stock market. You want to make money? Do the opposite of everything Jim Cramer tells you to do. CNBC is also known for pump and dump, these guys that come on and recommend stocks do it for one reason and that is to pump the stock up so they can dump it on you.

Ummmm no I'm pretty sure Jim Cramers rather intelligent. He's predicted a lot of bottoms in sectors and in the past has made 100's of millions for clients. His credentials are rather high, so don't tell me. I've read every single one of his books first hand and his stradegies are rather genius. So again don't tell me what my intelligence is on a certain matter, i'm certain only I can know that.

And as for CNBC about pumping and dumping, doesn't happen anymore. Companies used to pay reporters and people on tv to do just that. But it stopped in the 90's. So don't get simple opinions confused with "pumping and dumping". And if your dumb even to just buy a stock because it was brought up on a show without doing research well then you've made a terrible mistake.

[Dmoore323]

And again you come into a post and type irrelevant nonsense that does not come remotely close to answering the original poster. NICE JOB. You keep posting.

[Grandmarnier]

The original post is about Obama, and its kinda strayed to Media.

Anyway, You cant expect all the changes to occur in the first month of office. Its best to re-evaluate your opinion at 6 months-1 year and see what has been done.

As for the military, what are you talking about? You dont give the military money to enlist. So why are you saying "how much they #$%& you out of"?

[Fanatik]

DrMoney - you're probably one of the most foolish kids on this forum, and this post just reiterates what we already know. You damn well better get your facts straight before you attempt to make any comments, especially about the military.

I'm in the military - and I can tell you that the one job NO military member wants is to be a recruiter! Recruiters don't get incentives for screwing people over. Their goal is NOT to 'save the govt money' - it's to recruit prospects into the military to boost their numbers.

Along with that - you have good and bad recruiters. Some recruiters don't tell the truth, which is a shame. It's also a shame that the 18 year old kid is going to make such a big decision without researching what he's getting into, thus knowing what is and is not BS in regards to the recruiter's information.

In the Air Force, we have people coming to us to join - and we ask them why. We only take the best overall candidates, and filter the ones that don't make the cut, to the other services. Army recruiters have the most stressful job imaginable. They have their cell phone on them 24/7/365. It's Christmas and you want to talk to your Army recruiter? Ok, call him, he'll meet up with you - because HE NEEDS YOU, not the other way around. Army recruiters come back from Iraq after 1 1/2 yrs, and because they're in the top 1% of the outstanding soldiers in their unit, they are selected for the most intense and stressful job imaginable. Sounds like a great life, huh? Sounds like everyone wants to be a recruiter. Right.

So before you let anything slip out of those snotty little lips of yours, especially about the military - you damn well need to get your sh*t straight. If you have any more comments about the military - expect to get ripped apart unless it's the truth.

[Dmoore323]

I've never been found of the military. I'm probably going to get called out on this one, but I think the whole system is crooked. I know they fight for our so called freedom and all. But it just seems like the soldiers are mindless, they'll fight anywhere there higher authority tells them to. The majority of it is our lower class, it seems the government finds one way to put you in order if your a black or latino lower class person thats either jail or the military. Look back in history every time a country has had an economic slowdown, they set out for a new war because the wars create a lot of jobs. A more recent example is the Great Depression and World War 2, people say FDR's New Deal was what got us out of the economic trouble but it was the war. All the New Deal did was build highways and renovate, similiar to Obama's stimulus package...hmm. Another thing people don't realize is that this country sponsors terrorism. We spend 10 times more on our military budget than any other country. It's what drives the country. And we've invested so much that if we didn't carry out with wars or promote new ones we'd lose money.

The war in Afghanistan will never be won. It's an indirect war. People need to realize wherever Al-Queda trains war by the US will be brought into that country and they know that. On Bin Ladens last audio tape he said that the Afghan and Iraqi wars were intended to be prolonging so it could diminish the US economy. And he was right. We'll never win, those people operate all over the world and sacrifice there life just to kill another.
Most people won't know that the US and Osama Bin Laden used to be in good terms before 9/11, the CIA funded Al-Queda with 6 Billion. People don't even realize that the US helped Afghan militants when the Soviet Union invaded them. The whole system of terrorism is beyond anyones comphrehension only due to the fact that no one knows where Al-Qaeda truely stands. And if we ever do have World War 3 Al Qaeda will be the most prominent force.

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