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    Alibaba floated

    Biggest float of a .com company since google.

    Very interesting. Valued at 23 billion.

    When will this bubble burst! seriously! that is a insane amount of money, for a website.

    What do people think here, is it massively overvalued? i think it is.

    Alibaba soars in biggest net float since Google - Times Online



    Shares in Alibaba.com, the world's biggest online marketplace for international and domestic Chinese trade, more than doubled on its debut in Hong Kong yesterday, making it Asia's second-largest Internet company by market value after Yahoo! Japan Corp.

    Alibaba, founded and chaired by Jack Ma, a former schoolteacher, in 1999, is trading at about 140 times next year's estimated earnings as shares rocketed from the initial offering price of HK$13.50 (83p) to HK$35.75 (£2.21).

    That values the eastern China-based company at about $23.3 billion (£11.2 billion) and reflects the voracious appetite for China-related stocks, despite global uncertainty caused by the US sub-prime mortgage-related crisis.

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    hmm quite amazing.

    i always thought alibaba was full of scams? Maybe they have resolved that issue...
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    Yeha, that was my impression of it.

    Its MASSIVELY over valued imo.

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    No, the reason it is valued so high is because of the current economics of the Chinese economy. People in China have more savings than ever , their middle class is rapidly growing, their GDP is skyrocketing, but they have a communist government that restricts foreign investments. A lot of people in China keep their money in banks with low interest rates because they have nowhere else to invest. When a company such as Alibaba comes along and provides a lucrative investment option for the average chinese citizen, the value becomes grossly overstated because investments flood into it.

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    Just wait for a correction, lot of people will lose money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rossco1 View Post
    hmm quite amazing.

    i always thought alibaba was full of scams? Maybe they have resolved that issue...

    same thing here, never really bothered with it, because i thought it was just a website of scams.

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    I know someone who did use it and got scammed. I also believe that it is overvalued. I don't know how the average chinese citizen can invest into this site. I believe that it helps businesses U.S. and Chinese, which can help the Chinese citizen possibly make more income, but not solve the problem of investing.

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    I found a lot of chinese suppliers a couple years back on Alibaba.. They aren't all scams, you just have to order samples and be smart.
    If you want to be rich, sell products and services.
    If you want to be insanely rich, create and control markets.
    I must create a system or be enslaved by another mans; I will not reason and compare: my business is to create.
    Read The Richest Man in Babylon - first published in 1926, timeless wealth-building principles.

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    yeah i never got the hang of it..

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    yeah, i agree its either scams or cheap knock off products. There are SO many suppliers over there to choose from and finding a legit seller...can be difficult.

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    You dont have to go there. I can take care of you right here in the good old U.S.A.

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    I think it's overvalued. You really have to spend hours to find legit suppliers.

    It might be 'valued at 23 billion' but I highly doubt anyone would pay that much for it. Besides, value is subjective.

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