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    Arrow 2nd review

    On my first review of my site (wristroom.com ) I was told that it was hard to figure out what the site is about. I also modified some of the ads that were annoying. Can I have a 2nd review from you guys? Tell me what is good and what is not good. Please leave some suggestions if you have some good ideas for the site. Thank you!

    The site is basically finished now. Im trying to advertise with myspace, forums, blogs..etc Is there any better ways to advertise my site?

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    ok...here's what I'm thinking..

    Free downloads..nice..what kind of downloads? seems like games and movies. I already use torrentscan to find games and movies..and I use movies-on-demand.tv to find streaming video..is this site better than torrentscan or movies-on-demand.tv? no it's not. close window.

    I like the direction you're moving with the redesign of your header, but you can't just go around launching uncompetitive websites and expect to be sucessful. Be competitive. If you don't have a competitive advantage, don't compete

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    no..there's no point advertising your site. it's uncompetitive. you won't be able to win and keep an audience with your current offering. You're living in an attention deficit economy. If you wanna get into the content business, you're gonna have to be competitive - either through strategy (i.e. weblogs inc, perezhilton) or through technology (i.e. tech meme, digg.com). quit being uncompetitive.
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    akula, thank you. You are absoulutely right, but i got the domain name for free. And the hostig is free too. Im just doing this part time. Most torrent sites have many ads that pop up, and most of their software has viruses and other harmfull things. My site only carries Tested software, games, movies, etc... that work. I belive my site is easier to use, and cleaner then many sites out there. There is is no need to register on my site. AND YOU WILL NEVER SEE A POP UP! Not impressive i know. But this site I will update every day, plus i got the " Request A Download" feature on my site that will allow people to request a download... ( duh ) Basically my site is different because i will try to give them what they want. Instead of just random stuff.

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    but yea, it will be very hard to compete. Wish me luck... :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis3721 View Post
    akula, thank you. You are absoulutely right, but i got the domain name for free. And the hostig is free too. Im just doing this part time. Most torrent sites have many ads that pop up, and most of their software has viruses and other harmfull things. My site only carries Tested software, games, movies, etc... that work. I belive my site is easier to use, and cleaner then many sites out there. There is is no need to register on my site. AND YOU WILL NEVER SEE A POP UP! Not impressive i know. But this site I will update every day, plus i got the " Request A Download" feature on my site that will allow people to request a download... ( duh ) Basically my site is different because i will try to give them what they want. Instead of just random stuff.
    I was going to comment on the website, but I thought that a comment on this posting would be much more valuable to the YE community. So often we come up with a "great" idea. We fall in love with it, we see how we can become millionaires or change the world. When we solicit the opinion of others and receive negative feedback, we disregard the feedback. This is a problem. To whom are we marketing? Who will be our conduit to our ultimate goal? The answer is our unbiased consumer.

    The smartest thing you can do is seek the opinion of others. The dumbest thing you can do is to disregard the opinion of others. What I see here is the disregard of the opinion of others. And who is this other? This is your consumer. So if this other, your consumer, says no, how do you think that you'll be successful? Use your brain, man! Separate yourself from your idea. Think like your customer.

    AND GO MIZZOU!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis3721 View Post
    akula, thank you. You are absoulutely right
    Yah man, no sweat. Look, drop this blog thing you have. It's not a reasonable business opportunity. Get interested in opportunity selection and apply a set of reasoned criteria to get your self into a great business.

    My role on this board is to help make you wealthy and sucessful. That's only gonna happen given two conditions; a) you quitting loss making activities and b) you starting something diffrent

    I can guide you through the process of how to pick a business opportunity; but you have to be analytical about the process and resist getting into more loss producing ventures because "i got the domain name for free". You're killing your time on this thing when you could be moving towards something that can make your career. Sure, you learned alot doing this project, but you can learn much more doing something with a more obvious upside.
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    A good article in entrepreneur magazine this month related to this:
    Entrepreneur Magazine: Test Run

    David Silver, of Sante Fe Capital, has his first law of entrepreneurship. It goes like this:
    V = P x S x E
    V stands for valuation or wealth, P is the problem the business is intended to solve for its customers, S is the elegance of the solution it will offer and E is the skill of the entrepreneurial team.

    I highly suggest you read this article as it shows what goes into doing a feasibility study before you start. And if you're inclined, use the online feasibility calculator. I linked to it on my blog here:
    Before launching, a feasibility study is a must « Ramblings of an Entrepreneur
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    Let me just say something. It might make sense, it might not. Ill try my best though. I believe there is 2 types of people out there. Entrepreneurs, and regular people. Imagine your a REGULAR person, who has no intension's to create a business. And that person comes to my site (wristroom.com). He is not going to be like..." hey! Why does he have an ad on the header?" He will look at the content and make his decision if he will download any files, or if he should leave my site and find another. If he sees a file that he is interested in downloading, and downloads it without problems. He will gain my trust, and he WILL come back for more. Simple business principals.

    I know, listening to you guys is important. And many of you may be right. I perhaps should dump this project. Too much competition, too much work, not enough traffic... its nothing i haven't heard before. But, as a site, which has a simple purpose.. ( provide people with free downloads, virus free, and with quality) i KNOW it can work. I don't want to sound cocky, or give you the impression that you guys are wrong, and i'm right. But I can't just stop working on this site, and quit. I worked too hard, and too long to dump the project.

    Agree, or disagree with me. But if you truly believe this will not work. PLEASE help me figure out HOW to make it work, and how to succeed in this project. I have no intentions of dumping this project so please try help. Pretend I have no other option, i have to create this type of site or nothing. what would you do to succeed? Thank you for your opinions. I read them all, I know some people are going to be like " well, if you don't want to listen to my advice...screw you." I hope you understand, that i really want to do this project.

    PS: Thanks for the recommended articles...
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    Firstly, I definately agree with Akula. I know you say that the site hasn't cost you anything, but you gotta look at the opportunity costs. Your time. Time is money! You are trying to enter a VERY competitive market. A market where customers will generally be loyal to one or two suppliers... meaning that they will already have their sites that they visit for specific downloads.

    Ok, you're determined to do this, so here's my 2 cents worth.

    First of all - what type of downloads... Your header or introduction doesn't tell me.

    I don't like the font you've used for the header. Generally, I like the look of the site.

    You haven't done any optimization. You at least need good title tags.. but once a again, it's a very competitive market... and i don't know how much traffic you'll generate by Search Engine Optimization alone.

    I would write articles, targeting niches where possible... optimize these pages.

    Yeah, and when you do get visitors you're gonna have to really engage with them to keep them coming back. I'm sure you can think of some creative ways to do that.
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    Dylan Phelan, Thank you. Now thats some good advice... Appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis3721 View Post
    I know, listening to you guys is important. And many of you may be right. I perhaps should dump this project. Too much competition, too much work, not enough traffic... its nothing i haven't heard before. But, as a site, which has a simple purpose.. ( provide people with free downloads, virus free, and with quality) i KNOW it can work. I don't want to sound cocky, or give you the impression that you guys are wrong, and i'm right. But I can't just stop working on this site, and quit. I worked too hard, and too long to dump the project.
    Ok..let me help you get on the road to success...

    I appreciate the "too long to dump the project" feeling that you have...This feeling is the result of a cognitive defect in the human mind called loss aversion. Computers don't have it. It's a human phenomena. It's the same reason why people stay in bad marriages, or bad jobs. They're afraid to quit because of feeling that they've worked too hard, and too long to dump the thing. It's a destructive phenomena. It's not good for you.

    The complementary defect to loss aversion is called confirmation bias. This is when your brain starts playing tricks on you and makes you say nonsensical things like "i KNOW it can work", even though the project is a certified dead end. What's happening in your mind right now is self deception caused by the fact that you're unfamiliar with how to handle the unique emotional constructs in your mind, which arise when you're facing conditions of uncertainty...you're not alone..all humans suffer from these defects; except that some know how to diagnose them selves (btw: look up the 1996 nobel prize winners for economics if you wanna learn more about this stuff)

    The point: Drop the project. That's the more profitable decision for you to make (compared to sticking with the project). To avoid feeling bad about it - use a mental accounting trick. In other words; don't think of your project as "a business", think of it as part of your college curriculum, where you've enrolled in this subject, made a website, leaned a lot and paid the cost of your tuition in the time you've spent on this project. You've had your education, now it's over, move onto the next stage in your career and start a proper business.

    Stop being a victim of your own psychology.
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    sadly i do understand what you are talking about. But here is a simpler reason why i want to do this project. (im not doing this because of $$$, or success, failure..etc) I just want to do it because i like to develope sites... I already know i'm not going to retire because of wristroom.com, It might sound like a waste of time to you. But its an enjoyable waste of time for me, where I'M creating something.

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    i bid u fair winds and smooth sailing my friend
    I go day clubbing for my enjoyable waste of time
    wouldn't give it up for the world

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    I hate to tell you, but it would be a waste of ALL of our time to try to offer you advice on this website for the sake of offering you advice, rather than just letting you waste your own time. I second Akula - Good luck, and I hope you are happy. If you need further advice that DOESN'T involve us wasting our time, we're here.

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