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    Worst economic collapse ever

    The man who predicted the 1987 stock market crash and the fall of the Soviet Union is now forecasting a revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions - all within four years, while cautioning that putting food on the table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by 2012.

    Gerald Celente,the CEO of Trends Research Institute, is renowned for his accuracy in predicting future world and economic events, which will send a chill down your spine considering what he told Fox News this week.

    Celente says that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and that holidays will be more about obtaining food, not gifts.

    "Were going to see the end of the retail Christmas....were going to see a fundamental shift take place....putting food on the table is going to be more important that putting gifts under the Christmas tree," said Celente, adding that the situation would be "worse than the great depression".

    "Americas going to go through a transition the likes of which no one is prepared for," said Celente, noting that peoples refusal to acknowledge that America was even in a recession highlights how big a problem denial is in being ready for the true scale of the crisis.

    Celente, who successfully predicted the 1997 Asian Currency Crisis, the subprime mortgage collapse and the massive devaluation of the U.S. dollar, told UPI in November last year that the following year would be known as "The Panic of 2008," adding that "giants (would) tumble to their deaths," which is exactly what we have witnessed with the collapse of Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and others. He also said that the dollar would eventually be devalued by as much as 90 percent.

    The consequence of what we have seen unfold this year would lead to a lowering in living standards, Celente predicted a year ago, which is also being borne out by plummeting retail sales figures.

    The prospect of revolution was a concept echoed by a British Ministry of Defence report last year, which predicted that within 30 years, the growing gap between the super rich and the middle class, along with an urban underclass threatening social order would mean, "The worlds middle classes might unite, using access to knowledge, resources and skills to shape transnational processes in their own class interest," and that, "The middle classes could become a revolutionary class."

    In a separate recent interview, Celente went further on the subject of revolution in America.

    "There will be a revolution in this country," he said. "Its not going to come yet, but its going to come down the line and were going to see a third party and this was the catalyst for it: the takeover of Washington, D. C., in broad daylight by Wall Street in this bloodless coup. And it will happen as conditions continue to worsen."

    "The first thing to do is organize with tax revolts. Thats going to be the big one because people cant afford to pay more school tax, property tax, any kind of tax. Youre going to start seeing those kinds of protests start to develop."

    "Its going to be very bleak. Very sad. And there is going to be a lot of homeless, the likes of which we have never seen before. Tent cities are already sprouting up around the country and were going to see many more."

    "Were going to start seeing huge areas of vacant real estate and squatters living in them as well. Its going to be a picture the likes of which Americans are not going to be used to. Its going to come as a shock and with it, theres going to be a lot of crime. And the crime is going to be a lot worse than it was before because in the last 1929 Depression, peoples minds werent wrecked on all these modern drugs - over-the-counter drugs, or crystal meth or whatever it might be. So, you have a huge underclass of very desperate people with their minds chemically blown beyond anybodys comprehension."

    The George Washington blog has compiled a list of quotes attesting to Celentes accuracy as a trend forecaster.

    "When CNN wants to know about the Top Trends, we ask Gerald Celente."
    - CNN Headline News

    "Gerald Celente has a knack for getting the zeitgeist right."
    - USA Today

    "Theres not a better trend forecaster than Gerald Celente. The man knows what hes talking about."
    - CNBC

    "Those who take their predictions seriously ... consider Gerald Celente and the Trends Research Institute."
    - The Wall Street Journal

    "Gerald Celente is always ahead of the curve on trends and uncannily on the mark ... hes one of the most accurate forecasters around."
    - The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

    "Mr. Celente tracks the worlds social, economic and business trends for corporate clients."
    - The New York Times

    "Mr. Celente is a very intelligent guy. We are able to learn about trends from an authority."
    - 48 Hours, CBS News

    "Gerald Celente has a solid track record. He has predicted everything from the 1987 stock market crash and the demise of the Soviet Union to green marketing and corporate downsizing."
    - The Detroit News

    "Gerald Celente forecast the 1987 stock market crash, green marketing, and the boom in gourmet coffees."
    - Chicago Tribune

    "The Trends Research Institute is the Standard and Poors of Popular Culture."
    - The Los Angeles Times

    "If Nostradamus were alive today, hed have a hard time keeping up with Gerald Celente."
    - New York Post

    YouTube - Gerald Celente - The Greatest Depression 02-11-09 (1/2)



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    Any good economist could predict any one of those previous financial crisis. In fact there is a distinct difference between a good economist and nostradamus (which is what predicting revolution would make him). So really that is niether impressive nor does it make him credible to make such a statement. Many analysts as well as myself agree in the fact that not only can we calculate what the worst case scenario would be, but we are also prepared for it, and it is entirely controllable. We are not poised for a fallout, but instead a renaissance. And we are the generation of entreprenuers that will be bringing us into it!

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    If this guy knows even a little bit about what he's talking about, we're in major trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by financeblogger123 View Post
    Any good economist could predict any one of those previous financial crisis.
    I'd have to argue with you on that. Economists were debating heavily in 2006 and 2007 about what these years would bring. YouTube - Peter Schiff was right 2006-2007 - CNBC edition

    Quote Originally Posted by financeblogger123 View Post
    In fact there is a distinct difference between a good economist and nostradamus (which is what predicting revolution would make him). So really that is niether impressive nor does it make him credible to make such a statement.
    I think he is credible to analyze our current situation and give a general idea with what the future will bring. His firm consults Fortune 500 companies on just that: Sony, Pepsi, Toyota, Tmobile. (2009 Trend Report — Table of contents) If you wanted credibility, that's as good as it gets.

    Although I don't believe there's going to be a tax revolution - there's plenty of European countries who have higher taxes than we do, Germany for example.

    Quote Originally Posted by financeblogger123 View Post
    Many analysts as well as myself agree in the fact that not only can we calculate what the worst case scenario would be, but we are also prepared for it, and it is entirely controllable. We are not poised for a fallout, but instead a renaissance. And we are the generation of entreprenuers that will be bringing us into it!
    Your right what Celente is preaching isn't a worst case scenario. Many countries have been through what he's talking about and have risen back up again. Look at Russia for example.

    However, the worst case scenario IMO is the budget crises America faces. If it isn't fixed soon our country will be in serious trouble, possibly bankrupt, at least that's what the government's top accountant says. YouTube - US Government Immorality Will Lead to Bankruptcy

    I'm sure China wouldn't lend us anymore money to get out of it, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by financeblogger123 View Post
    Many analysts as well as myself agree in the fact that not only can we calculate what the worst case scenario would be, but we are also prepared for it, and it is entirely controllable.
    Ha ya right. We're not prepared for it.
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    WORSE than the Great Depression? With over 50% unemployment, Hoovervilles in every nook and cranny, and so on? It's hard to think that America won't be able to feed itself. Whether it can be done profitably is another question, but I don't see another Zimbabwe where massive numbers of farms are shut down and famine and disease run rampant. I do think that President Obama's idiot ideas of remaking society with other people's money and with printing trillions out of thin air are enough to cause a revolution because they're not only unworkable but stupid. The major cities will have huge problems with drug crimes, yes, but in smaller cities there's a possibility that the junkies will simply be shot, especially if the police/justice system breaks down. Places like Reno have tons of guns floating around, in the hands of legit citizens who would not hesitate to shoot anybody trying to rob them. Try reading the Reno boards sometime-people are constantly talking vigilantism. If he really is predicting a new dark age, well it's possible, but people were predicting it in the 30s too.

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    psssst the Media wants you to believe there is a recession so they can sell ad space and get ratings for their stupid shows on fox news , msnbc, cnbc and all this other crap stop watching the cable news networks, please, morning joe is not good for you in the mornings

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    Stop reading headlines, make your own headlines that what real entrepreneurs do folks, we create out of nothingness

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    It's worrisome to say the least. History does repeat itself... over and over and over. EVERY super power in the world has fallen. Everyone has their time. I'm hoping it's not our time to fall, but history does get a little scary to look at. I'm sure every super power never thought they'd meet their demise. Let's hope we can pull thru this!

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    We're not in the worst financial situation ever, but it is the most complex. Either way, the media reports the worst news possible because it grabs the attention of more viewers, thus enabling great ad revenue. If the media didn't focus on this, the overall economy would be in a better situation since it all comes back to consumer confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BusinessAdviser View Post
    We're not in the worst financial situation ever, but it is the most complex. Either way, the media reports the worst news possible because it grabs the attention of more viewers, thus enabling great ad revenue. If the media didn't focus on this, the overall economy would be in a better situation since it all comes back to consumer confidence.
    A.)We are in the worst financial crisis, open your eyes
    B.)No it is not, the FED knows exactly what there doing
    C.)The media does not report it, the media keeps saying we're in a recession and we will be out of it in 2010.

    Your a typical American Businessman I take it huh? They did a good job of covering your eyes. And please do not respond explaining how you are correct, because well it is the worst crisis ever, there will be riots of all sorts, Google Fema Camps and Rex-84, they're already planning on what to do with the people who rebel. The government has about 3,700 of the camps in the U.S. already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmoore323 View Post
    A.)We are in the worst financial crisis, open your eyes
    B.)No it is not, the FED knows exactly what there doing
    C.)The media does not report it, the media keeps saying we're in a recession and we will be out of it in 2010.

    Your a typical American Businessman I take it huh? They did a good job of covering your eyes. And please do not respond explaining how you are correct, because well it is the worst crisis ever, there will be riots of all sorts, Google Fema Camps and Rex-84, they're already planning on what to do with the people who rebel. The government has about 3,700 of the camps in the U.S. already.
    That's just absurd.

    A) You're really saying that this is worse than the Great Depression?! Open YOUR eyes. Haha. That's silly.

    B) I don't know to what this comment is referring.

    C) The media reports the worst news possible. Period. Why? It generates more revenue.

    No, I'm NOT a typical American businessman. Who covered my eyes? Very curious. And I suppose only time will tell whether there will be riots that topple the government. I think that's just ridiculous, but then again, you seem to provide conclusions to every issue (despite no facts to support them). Either way, I can't WAIT for time to pass so that we can all see.

    Just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BusinessAdviser View Post
    We're not in the worst financial situation ever, but it is the most complex. Either way, the media reports the worst news possible because it grabs the attention of more viewers, thus enabling great ad revenue. If the media didn't focus on this, the overall economy would be in a better situation since it all comes back to consumer confidence.
    I agree. This is not the worst. My money is still secured being in the bank.
    It is not like the Great Depression when the banks closed you lost everything.
    We have a better system now too to prevent complete poverty

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    Quote Originally Posted by BusinessAdviser View Post
    That's just absurd.

    A) You're really saying that this is worse than the Great Depression?! Open YOUR eyes. Haha. That's silly.

    B) I don't know to what this comment is referring.

    C) The media reports the worst news possible. Period. Why? It generates more revenue.

    No, I'm NOT a typical American businessman. Who covered my eyes? Very curious. And I suppose only time will tell whether there will be riots that topple the government. I think that's just ridiculous, but then again, you seem to provide conclusions to every issue (despite no facts to support them). Either way, I can't WAIT for time to pass so that we can all see.

    Just silly.
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