rich dadd succeess story & law of attreaction = $$$4

**roadtoharvard** · 08-02-2007 01:00 PM

dun listen to da dreamstealerz dis is wha u can achiev wit da principles of cashflow andd lawz of attreaction. no limits!!!!111

u can see the suceess's herez!!!!111

**bopa media** · 08-02-2007 01:56 PM

I nevarz finoosh high schol and this booke makes me a millionaire

dont evarz qestion da principles of cashflow evrythings it say is right

**Young Spark** · 08-02-2007 04:00 PM

^^ Bopa media, I am still trying to figure out whether you hate Kiyosaki as a perosn or just hate what he's become.

Bottom line is this: The guy is successful, and even if he isn't, even if he is living in a run down apartment right now with no electric, he is respected by millions, respect the guy for that much. He's got a best seller, do you have a best seller? He has been on CNBC... have you been on CNBC?

Compare the things I am getting at, the guy is successful in his own way, whether you like him as a person is a different story, but don't say he is necessarily wrong or the success stories are idiotic just because you "believe different."

By the way it sounds, you don't like him as a person, its not "I don't like him because he is lying to millions of people."

Just my .02 cents

**bopa media** · 08-02-2007 04:41 PM

I dont mind him as a person, i've never met him so i dont really know him. What i dont like is how he preaches his principals to people as a way to great wealth, when as i've shown, some of his principals dont match up with facts of the industries.

If he would just flat out say that his methods wont make you rich but can help you accumilate wealth for retirement that would appease me, but instead he feeds off of the avg persons desire to get rich now, and as above some of his methods are shaky if not quite wrong.

No i havent had a best seller, my grammer is way to poor for that, but i have been on CNBC, 3 years ago i was an analyst at Lehman brothers working on an ipo and my md couldnt make the broadcast and i was the only 2nd yr working on it.

**Young Spark** · 08-02-2007 04:49 PM

No i havent had a best seller, my grammer is way to poor for that, but i have been on CNBC, 3 years ago i was an analyst at Lehman brothers working on an ipo and my md couldnt make the broadcast and i was the only 2nd yr working on it.

1 times doesn't justify the times he's been on CNBC, he's been on CNBC more then once.

Point is this: All authors hype themselves up to believe that they have the "magical wealth building" technique. They try to put forth confidence in themselves... then what happens next is that they try and promote their book or whatever because their techniques worked for them and "feel" it could work for others.

What I am getting at is that Robert Kiyosaki has a best seller, a book filled with principles that many try and utilize, some may fail, some may succeed... its all about how they execute them principles and if they have the abilities to do so.

So leave it to the people who try and "cosume" the techniques he presents, and let the consumer decide for themselves. Your giving me the impression your trying to "speak for yourself." Your stating "his principles aren't good and his principles won't help anyone." Its like the saying goes, what one might fail, another may succeed.

Just sit back and let the consumers decide whether it was a wise investment or a worthless piece of trash.

**Kendra Jane Fashions** · 08-02-2007 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Young Spark

Just sit back and let the consumers decide whether it was a wise investment or a worthless piece of trash.

I'm gonna play devil's advocate on both sides:

A) Isn't that the point of this board? To debate, and to offer opinions?

B) How much does the book cost? 20 USD? 30 USD? Hell, if you gain one piece of good advice from the book and spend just a mere 2 hours reading it (I read "Why We Want You To Be Rich" in 2 hours, so thats my benchmark)...you made out like a bandit. If it sucks...you lost $30 and 2 hours. Big deal.

**bopa media** · 08-02-2007 04:59 PM

This whole thing only came about on a challenge from CDallen to make a post debating Kiyosaki creditability, i made it as a joke and it took off.

All i've ever tried to say is that the professionals who do what Kiyosaki talks about in his book dont agree with his principals (and not the professionals who are trying to sell to you, institutional finance people whom already have large AUM) and i gave example of books that were written by people with a season track record in these positions, so if people would like to educate them selves farther they can.
It only got out of hand when someone would nit pick my posts and argue about nonsense never actually making factual points

**Young Spark** · 08-02-2007 05:03 PM

^^ And them seasoned professionals have the same thing everyone else does, its called "opinions" --- they don't agree, that's fine... but that doesn't mean they necessarily are saying "hey, this book sucks, we hate the principles and nobody should buy it."

They opinionate their minds and that is good for them but the fact is, just because they disagree with it doesn't necessarily mean that it won't work for everyone. These "seasoned professionals" should understand this, if it works for one person, its got to work for another person (assuming that the "other" person has, as I said, the ability and puts forth their mindset.)

**Cognition** · 08-02-2007 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by bopa media

This whole thing only came about on a challenge from CDallen to make a post debating Kiyosaki creditability, i made it as a joke and it took off.

All i've ever tried to say is that the professionals who do what Kiyosaki talks about in his book dont agree with his principals (and not the professionals who are trying to sell to you, institutional finance people whom already have large AUM) and i gave example of books that were written by people with a season track record in these positions, so if people would like to educate them selves farther they can.
It only got out of hand when someone would nit pick my posts and argue about nonsense never actually making factual points

Bopa - why don't you and RoadtoHarvard just let it go? Really? What's the point of continuing to argue if you don't like what he teaches? If you don't like it, then leave it alone. Plain and simple

These "professionals" you speak of: How many of them are out to teach the masses about financial literacy? Not one of them. Yes, they may be teaching advanced material, but you have to consider this nation with the various levels of education among us. I don't see any of these individuals who are willing to take financial education to the level that Mr. Kiyosaki has. What comes to mind are "rocking chair advisors". They criticize his material and point out all and any errors, but I don't see anything beyond mere conversation.

What really amazes me is the fact that you keep pointing out [repeatedly] how these "seasoned" professionals with "track records" laugh and criticize his material, but I don't see any of them with a desire to start educating the masses about financial literacy [whether what they teach is poor or sound].

So please, stop referring to them. It really doesn't make sense. Like them, you are nothing but full of hot air. As in the South we say, "Big Hat, but No Cattle."

Stop TALKING about it, and start BEING about it.

**Cognition** · 08-02-2007 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by bopa media

when as i've shown, some of his principals dont match up with facts of the industries.

You haven't shown anything. All you've said were your compadres laugh and joke about his book.

**Young Spark** · 08-02-2007 06:16 PM

I don't get how the 2 think just because it didn't work for them means it won't work for anyone. If they think the book sucks, then so be it, but acting with no sense over such an issue... just because someone is objecting to their opinions is no reason to downgrade the book.

As I said, Robert Kiyosaki is respected by many, he's been on numerous TV shows, he has a best seller book and he has changed the lives of many (who RTH and Bopa seem to forget when they state their opinions.) On top of that, I HAVEN'T READ HIS BOOk!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**roadtoharvard** · 08-02-2007 06:21 PM

oooo noes kool aid take few more go bye bye's. crap diem seize da cashfluow! millionairze by 40!!!! reason edumaction h8ted is cuz shows fallacy oops....i meanz tings dat not true. maybe coomon snese kick in one day. doubtful.... but wha can u du? easy monay faith make blindz foolz. only wish dat woodant bring others cuz it will hurt them but des peeps dun care. unly care about demselves. way talk is stoopid but not as stoopid as argumentz being touteed by kool aid drinkaz.

**Aletheides** · 08-02-2007 06:29 PM

What Kiyosaki teaches is good and worth the read.

The principles he and others teach will help you find the path to your $$$ -- nobody has the ability to hand it to you.

**Young Spark** · 08-03-2007 01:37 AM

oooo noes kool aid take few more go bye bye's. crap diem seize da cashfluow! millionairze by 40!!!! reason edumaction h8ted is cuz shows fallacy oops....i meanz tings dat not true. maybe coomon snese kick in one day. doubtful.... but wha can u du? easy monay faith make blindz foolz. only wish dat woodant bring others cuz it will hurt them but des peeps dun care. unly care about demselves. way talk is stoopid but not as stoopid as argumentz being touteed by kool aid drinkaz.

So basically with your "degrading grammar" --- your giving the essence that everyone who read his books and succeeded are high school dropouts.

Here is a fact, you can be a high school dropout and be just as wealthy as a person who got an MBA from college. Your basically degrading everyone with your stupid antics. Yet you claim yourself "RoadToHarvard" --- if anything, your attitude and spirit of degrading others should land you in community college if your lucky.

Stop judging people, and start judging yourself. Get a life.

**Cognition** · 08-03-2007 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by Young Spark

So basically with your "degrading grammar" --- your giving the essence that everyone who read his books and succeeded are high school dropouts.

Here is a fact, you can be a high school dropout and be just as wealthy as a person who got an MBA from college. Your basically degrading everyone with your stupid antics. Yet you claim yourself "RoadToHarvard" --- if anything, your attitude and spirit of degrading others should land you in community college if your lucky.

Stop judging people, and start judging yourself. Get a life.

Just ignore him, Young Spark.
RTH has nothing to do but point fingers and tell us what's wrong with everyone else, all the while sitting on his own butt.

These exhausted antics of his bear no fruit and certainly don't need recognition for the nonsense they are.