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    Arrow Rev. Wright's 9/11 sermon

    Roland S. Martin, CNN Contributor, just posted the full text of the Rev. Wright's 9/11 Sermon on the CNN.com's Anderson Cooper's 360 blog.

    Read it at Anderson Cooper 360: Blog Archive - The full story behind Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s 9/11 sermon « - Blogs from CNN.com

    CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and all other news media lied on this speech, they distorted the truth. They portrayed this sermon as a hate speech, but there nothing in it that indicate a hate speech, but some quotes from previous speakers such as the "chickens come home to roost...".

    What do you think now that you read the whole sermon?

    Read what others are saying about this sermon and the media coverage at Digg - CNN, MSNBC LIED! see Rev. Wright's '9/11' comment in context
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    That Obama shouldn't have sat by quietly as the Rev said such unpatriotic things.

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    Reading this makes me think. But more so it makes me sick. There are a few references in his speech that are unintelligent to put it politely. As a former Marine I take a great deal of pride in this country and the things we have endured to keep it great.

    I’ll only take one example: Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Japanese pulled the Americans into WWII when they bombed Pearl Harbor. Our use of nuclear weapons was a last resort effort to SAVE American lives. Had we had to do a land invasion of both France and Japan we would not have won WWII. The estimated life cost of a land invasion of Japan was expected to be in excess of 50,000 American lives. We simply did not have enough men to sacrifice.

    OK… one more
    It is also now considered to be HISTORICAL FACT that the kings and leaders of most African countries SOLD their people into slavery. That in no way excuses the fact that slavery existed, but we as Americans did not steal people and force them into slavery. Their own leaders did that.

    That’s enough I’m getting a little…. I’m just done

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    The New Mexico governor joined Obama at spirited rally Friday and said the Illinois senator demonstrated his leadership abilities this week with his speech on race. "You are a once-in-a-lifetime leader," the governor said from the stage. "Above all, you will be a president who brings this nation together." Read his endorsement for Obama at NM Gov. Bill Richardson endorses Obama - Yahoo! News
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    A new Gallup Poll suggesting 53 percent of Americans don't view Clinton as trustworthy, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said Clinton would be a "deeply flawed nominee," and suggested it would be "nearly impossible" for her to win a general election."She is not seen as trustworthy by the American people," Plouffe said. "She has consistently in this campaign engaged in political calculation to mislead voters….It will nearly be impossible to win a general election if more than half the electorate thinks you're untrustworthy."

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    Typically, in every church I have been to, a sermon lasts an hour. So this expanded portion of his remarks that day, while it puts his comments in this instance in better context, certainly is not the whole sermon.

    Do I see this sermon as "hate speech"? No, in my mind it does not cross that threshold, while specific details could certainly be debated. Why? Because America did do those things. However, I do think that if he wanted to incite thoughtful revelation about some of this country's growth and military decisions he could have done it using different and better language. The language he used is designed to be insulting and and rile up the emotions, which does not induce thought, but reaction.

    I could just as easily say, "Rev. Wright has never been a slave." Would I be factually wrong? Nope. In saying that have I angered all of Rev. Wright's supporters reading this? Yup. The moment emotions are riled into anger, communication has ceased.

    Someone who wants to change things for the better, while acknowledging the past, cannot move forward very well walking backwards and only focusing on where he's been.

    I believe history is best studied as a whole. I don't think you take just the parts you want and chuck the rest. I feel that in citing these negative parts of US history Rev. Wright is doing just that.

    The news media used excerpts from various sermons to give an example of concepts Rev. Wright was preaching, and was admonished for it. Some of what he said I would qualify as "hate speech", just not in this example. Yet, in this sermon excerpt, I do not see him investigating further the examples he brings to light, but rather uses those examples to describe the United States as a place whose "chickens came to roost" on 9/11.

    I don't see the difference between what he does in this sermon and what the news media did.

    Frankly, I am so glad we are actually going to have this conversation in this country.
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    Very well put Tazman... nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by usakos View Post
    A new Gallup Poll suggesting 53 percent of Americans don't view Clinton as trustworthy, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said Clinton would be a "deeply flawed nominee," and suggested it would be "nearly impossible" for her to win a general election."She is not seen as trustworthy by the American people," Plouffe said. "She has consistently in this campaign engaged in political calculation to mislead voters….It will nearly be impossible to win a general election if more than half the electorate thinks you're untrustworthy."

    CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Obama camp: Clinton would be ‘deeply flawed’ nominee « - Blogs from CNN.com
    I can't help but agree. To bad his story would completely change were she to be the nominee, but it's nice to see another Democrat say the things that so many have felt for so long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usakos View Post
    The New Mexico governor joined Obama at spirited rally Friday and said the Illinois senator demonstrated his leadership abilities this week with his speech on race. "You are a once-in-a-lifetime leader," the governor said from the stage. "Above all, you will be a president who brings this nation together." Read his endorsement for Obama at NM Gov. Bill Richardson endorses Obama - Yahoo! News
    Spitzer demonstrated his leadership ability with some pretty good speeches too. I tend to think that actions (sitting quietly by during the Revs sermons without standing up for what is right or at least leaving) speak louder than words.

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