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03-05-2008, 06:30 AM
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Obama Became Too Arrogant, Loses Ohio and Texas
I am very disappointed and will stay away from listening to election news for the next few days until I cool down.
I am starting to really dislike Ohio. In 2000, we wrongly gave the presidency to Bush, and then again in 2004 instead of Kerry. Now, we gave the Ohio primaries to Clinton instead of Obama.
It's like we don't see what's really happening. Ohio has lost more jobs than any other states, and yet we still vote for the wrong candidate which is Clinton, instead of Obama, whom I believe he passionately shares more of our sentiment than Clinton.
This time Clinton was more aggressive in her campaign while Obama got too comfortable and relaxed thinking that he got Ohio and Texas locked in from his previous 11 straight wins, which is his big mistakes because he should never be that way, he should never play on offense.
Also, I think Clinton did a good job this time by keeping her husband out of the equation in Ohio and Texas, because even though I like Bill, he had became more of a liability to her in recent months because of his unreasonable attacks and squabbles with Obama. So, this time, he stayed in the background, and Hillary came out as herself, which most voters saw more of her own image instead of Bill.
From here on, Obama needs to shake up his team, as Clinton did a few weeks ago. Which is why Clinton has gotten new fresh ideas, started doing more direct attacks and hits, such as the midnight Ringing Phone Ad.
Plus, Obama has been recently repeating the same old lines of such as that of Pres. Kennedy’s quotes, etc., so he really needs to shake up his team, bring in more new and fresh ideas, play more of defense instead of offense, and really hammer Clinton on key issues for the upcoming Pennsylvanian and other states primaries.
And, he needs to bring out more of his secret weapon, which is Oprah. He should have let Oprah and his wife Michelle to come out and campaign in several cities in Ohio as they did in California.
But mathematically, as John King of CNN was explaining it on CNN yesterday, even if Clinton wins Ohio and Texas and all other upcoming primaries, she still will not win the nomination. Right now all she did in Ohio and Texas is prolong her campaign's lifeline to a few more primaries, but in the end, both Obama and Clinton, it will all come down to the super-delegates count to make the final pick for the ultimate candidacy nomination at the Democratic National Convention, and hopefully that would be Obama.
McCain on the other hand is pretty locked in and can now focus with full throttle on his presidential campaign.
So, the question still is, between Obama and Clinton, who's better equipped to beat McCain?
It will all come down to key issues, and as recent polls suggest, Obama is more equipped to beat McCain than Hillary.
But since McCain is and has always been a maverick, he can if he stays true to himself and ignores the calls from conservatives and just stays the way he always has been in the senate, he can and is capable of pulling of surprises, because he can attract both independents and some democrats, especially when coming to national security issues, amid that the voters miraculously void and blindly forget his voting for the war in Iraq.
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Last edited by usakos; 03-05-2008 at 08:01 AM.
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03-05-2008, 07:43 AM
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I'm really torn on this race. I would mostly vote with the Dems, but I have to be honest, Ron Paul was someone I could really stand behind. He disagrees with most of my ideals, but the one huge thing I can relate to with him is being a libertarian and wanting to give power back to the states. I live in NY, and I have to say, we, by enlarge, have very different needs than most places. We have more cultural diversity, more of everything, roads, countryside, mountains and major cities. We have a lot of federal laws bogging us down on a lot of issues, and to be quite honest, when it flooded so bad in my town (check any major news station for "livingston manor flood") Hillary came and actually got us some aid when the rest of the government basically shit on us. I wouldn't use profanity, my apologies, but they really snubbed us. It took a little girl dying before anyone noticed the millions of dollars we were having in damages on a yearly basis.
Obama, at this point, is where my vote will be. Not because I don't appreciate Ms. Clinton, but because I think he has better all around ideas. Will he put them in to action? I'm willing to give hi a chance. We can't do any worse than the last 8 years. Hillary has a decent record, but to be honest, her affiliations scare me more than any other candidates. Watching Bill spend the last four years buddying up with papa Bush should have been a good indicator to people as to what's going on in that arena.
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03-05-2008, 09:20 AM
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I am sorry guys. Does this look like political forum?
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03-05-2008, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jumper666jr
I am sorry guys. Does this look like political forum?
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This is our platform, our bar, our hood, our place and we can talk and discusss about anything we want.
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03-05-2008, 09:24 AM
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usakos good reply
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03-05-2008, 09:38 AM
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Young Entrepreneur Forums » Lounge » Young Entrepreneur Lounge » Obama Became Too Arrogant, Loses Ohio and Texas
@jumper666jr: Care to look at what sub-forum we are talking in before making yourself look like an ass? 
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03-05-2008, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by usakos
This is our platform, our bar, our hood, our place and we can talk and discusss about anything we want.
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A better response, in my opinion, might have been:
The result of the Presidential race will have significant effects on entrepreneurs for a number of reasons, including...
Providing a basis for a conclusion is more convincing and is perceived as more intelligent than an "It's-a-free-country,-and-I-can-do-what-I-want,-damn-it" attitude.
Moreover, if you're going to post a "little-Timmy's-trapped-in-a-well" newsstory (which many may perceive as having no relevance to entrepreneurship, and thus should be posted on some other site instead), provide a little support for why it DOES have relevance to entrepreneurs. It's not that hard.
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03-05-2008, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jmenq2
A better response, in my opinion, might have been:
The result of the Presidential race will have significant effects on entrepreneurs for a number of reasons, including...
Providing a basis for a conclusion is more convincing and is perceived as more intelligent than an "It's-a-free-country,-and-I-can-do-what-I-want,-damn-it" attitude.
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I was wondering, as always, when this cynical-like response will finally be posted on this thread. This is one who barely or never finds any goodness in anyone's point of view.
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03-05-2008, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by usakos
I was wondering, as always, when this cynical-like response will finally be posted on this thread. This is one who barely or never finds any goodness in anyone's point of view.
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I'm merely trying to help you sound less pompous and more intelligent, and I think that I made my statement in a rather constructive, reasonable, respectful way. Do you disagree?
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03-05-2008, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jmenq2
A better response, in my opinion, might have been:
The result of the Presidential race will have significant effects on entrepreneurs for a number of reasons, including...
Moreover, if you're going to post a "little-Timmy's-trapped-in-a-well" newsstory (which many may perceive as having no relevance to entrepreneurship, and thus should be posted on some other site instead), provide a little support for why it DOES have relevance to entrepreneurs. It's not that hard.
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And this posts does?
Is The Internet More Popular Than Television?
Don't get me wrong, love Dale Kings Articles, but how could this relate to entrepreneurship? I see you play Sheriff most of the times, but I feel like if you are going to play the role, play it at all times, since this is "your" board...
This is the lounge, I feel like we can talk about any and everything, and since all of the users are business minded, most of the topics are related to business, but no one is saying it has to be.
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