Italian Vs. Russian mafia - who would win?

**1337** · 06-03-2008 07:33 AM

I believe Russians would win. They are cold and military-bred who have lived most of their lives under shit circumstances. On the other hand, I'd prefer the Italians over Russians because of their etiquette and the way they do business.

Apparently the Russian Mafia are taking over London real estate and have been known for selling Nuclear Weapons on the black-market.

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**n/a** · 06-03-2008 09:08 AM

yeah Russians all the way. Just play GTA4 and you can see.

**rogercbryan** · 06-03-2008 09:16 AM

How in the hell did this topic get on here???

**entrepresooner** · 06-03-2008 09:45 AM

I think that the Italians would find a way to win. Probably by, forming alliances with other groups for the sole purpose of getting rid of the Russians. I could be biased by my Italian heritage or the fact that I hate Communists ...

Edit:
I realize that all Russians are not communists. This is a nonsense topic so i posted a nonsense reply.

**strategy** · 06-03-2008 09:59 AM

Russian Mob, hands down. Although it would take some work. The Italian Mafia are as civilized as crime can be. The Mafia in Soviet Russia however will slaughter any authority on the spot as naturally as walking or talking. They don't obey no rules.

**stand856** · 06-03-2008 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by entrepresooner

I think that the Italians would find a way to win. Probably by, forming alliances with other groups for the sole purpose of getting rid of the Russians. I could be biased by my Italian heritage or the fact that I hate Communists ...

The thing that you're forgetting communism has nothing to do with mafia and calling all Russians communist would be a very stereotypical thing to do.

**entrepresooner** · 06-03-2008 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by stand856

The thing that you're forgetting communism has nothing to do with mafia and calling all Russians communist would be a very stereotypical thing to do.

I know that communism has nothing to do with the Russian mafia, but I wanted to throw it in there anyway. It was supposed to be nonsense...

**1337** · 06-03-2008 12:22 PM

A little off topic never hurt anybody.
Besides, the Italian Mafia where reportedly reaping in excess of half a billion $ a year.

Originally Posted by rogercbryan

How in the hell did this topic get on here???

**LeroyJenkins55** · 06-03-2008 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by entrepresooner

I think that the Italians would find a way to win. Probably by, forming alliances with other groups for the sole purpose of getting rid of the Russians. I could be biased by my Italian heritage or the fact that I hate Communists ...

Very ignorant. The Russian Mafia is far from made up by Russian's alone. It includes many big crime lords from it's Baltic neighbours such as Lithuania and Poland.

Re: the topic I dont know which one to choose, i am tied between the two. Italy has intelligence and integrity, Russia has the numbers and fire power.

**Mega B** · 06-03-2008 12:41 PM

The Triad aint doing to bad either

**rogercbryan** · 06-03-2008 12:54 PM

i yi yi ... my ex-wife is Russian.. drop her off in Italy and she'll scare everyone out of the country... there's my opinion.

**Giovanni** · 06-03-2008 02:26 PM

There is no such thing as the Italian Mafia any more only organized crime. If it was 30 years back, la Cosa Nostra would have won and also dug the graves for the Russians.

**totters_traders** · 06-03-2008 03:34 PM

there alot of russian mafia in london - but they dont rule the uderworld in london, the turks are big here too as well as the english (firms).

**rogercbryan** · 06-03-2008 04:03 PM

You have to look at the advantages that the Russian 'mafia' has over the Italians at this time in history. The Italian Government has been on the offensive to root out the leaders of most major crime syndicates in Italy. This 20 year offensive has done a great deal of damage to the structure of the Italian Organizations. As for the Russians in many aspect they are still integrated with the current government. Most of the leaders of individual organizations have ties to the old KGB and are acquaintances of high ranking government officials.

Because of this advantage I would have to say that at this time the Russian Organizations would have a significant advantage over the Italian Organization on a worldwide basis. I do believe that in order to have a fair conversation about this you would need to include the major Asian Organizations as well.

Remember from American History that organized crime syndicates have seen the most growth during times of economic expansion and growth in the labor markets. You would have to then take into account what is going on in China if you really wanted to have a fair conversation about organized crime.

**JLeezer** · 06-03-2008 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by entrepresooner

I think that the Italians would find a way to win. Probably by, forming alliances with other groups for the sole purpose of getting rid of the Russians. I could be biased by my Italian heritage or the fact that I hate Communists ...

Edit:
I realize that all Russians are not communists. This is a nonsense topic so i posted a nonsense reply.

LOL...awesome edit!