[jasaunders]

The law of attraction is B.S. Millions of poverty stricken people play the lottery everyday, thinking positively that they are going to win. Guess what... they don't win.
The law of attraction is a mindset... what our society needs are people that take action.
It's all well and good to have the belief that people starving in Africa will one day have food, or that people will stop dying in Darfur, or that inner-city crime will cease. Unfortunately, these problems aren't solved by thinking/believing that they will be; people need to take action.

Thomas Edison didn't become famous and wealthy because he thought that way... it was because he was extremely intelligent and took action.

[rejoice]

lol you contradict yourself in more ways than one
i could point them out as you agreed and disagreed with me and then did it again
do your research mate
PEACE

[roadtoharvard]

Originally Posted by rejoice

why do you say Bill Gates thinks about poverty all the time?

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/GlobalDevelopment/ - Absolute poverty
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/UnitedStates/ - Relative poverty

Originally Posted by rejoice

if you are to get out of poverty... what are you to get into? wealth!

There is a big leap between getting out of poverty and being wealthy. If you consider anything above poverty wealthy than you are correct in your statement but i do not hold the same view.

Originally Posted by rejoice

the only thing that can grow is that what you put energy into... and if poverty is on your mind then guess what? poverty is what you get... and if you think law off attraction is BS... then how do you explain andrew carnagie and the hundreds of millions of dollars he accumulated... what about thomas edison... i don't think he was thinking poverty to accomplish what he did

Think of the law of attraction logically. If everyone wanted to be wealthy could they all be wealthy? No they couldn't. They couldn't because there are limited resources that people vie for. Since the resources are limited by nature it presupposes that everyone cannot get them. Hence you will have some winners (wealthy), some losers (poverty) and people in between. Secondly, chance plays a large role in everyday life. Don't confuse chance with skill. If you get rich while implementing the "law of attraction" what is to say that it was due to the law and not some random event? If you want to read more about it get this book.


Lastly, you cited Andrew Carnegie and Thomas Edison as two examples of success using the "law of attraction". What's to say that these people aren't just statistical anomalies? If you could only name two out of supposed millions of people that have "practiced" the law since 1937 (the date Napoleon Hill first published Think and Grow rich) shouldn't there be millions of examples of the law's successes? I've yet to see any statistical study on the so called law of attraction that gives credence to what it claims. It seems to me that the only people who get rich off the law are the shysters who promote it to John. Q Public. Oh wait, maybe those who failed weren't thinking hard enough.

[roadtoharvard]

Originally Posted by jasaunders

The law of attraction is a mindset... what our society needs are people that take action.
It's all well and good to have the belief that people starving in Africa will one day have food, or that people will stop dying in Darfur, or that inner-city crime will cease. Unfortunately, these problems aren't solved by thinking/believing that they will be; people need to take action.

Quite right.

[rejoice]

you disagree with me and then you agree... get your head in the right place

his programs are for development to create opportunities... not poverty

ebook to get out of poverty... yet you have no definition of where poverty ceases

logically... there is no chance... aspiring to get MBA at Harvard you'll learn that

Tina Wells, Andrea Lake, Thomas Gorny, Jeff Fluhr, Alan Jones, Richard Branson, Steve McKnight (just a few more)

sounds like you believe poverty is essential... why write an ebook how to get out of it then?

[roadtoharvard]

Originally Posted by rejoice

Tina Wells, Andrea Lake, Thomas Gorny, Jeff Fluhr, Alan Jones, Richard Branson, Steve McKnight (just a few more)

Ok that's nine (including Edison and Carnegie), I'm still waiting on the millions of successes.

Originally Posted by rejoice

sounds like you believe poverty is essential... why write an ebook how to get out of it then?

Poverty is never going to go away and I didn't write an e-book I wrote a post on my blog. I wrote a post about escaping it for those who want to change their circumstances. Not everyone who does what i said in the post will get out of poverty. Most will continue to stay poor. That's life.

I'm not going to hash this out any further because it's a pointless endeavor.

[rejoice]

wait all you want... you'll be waiting forever... if you really want to know go and research the subject and you will find more than you ever imagined

ebook... post... whatever mate... makes no difference to me... "that's life" just shows you wrote the book out of personal interest instead of genuinely wanting to help people get out of poverty

the only thing pointless is that you ark up when something doesn't agree with you instead of observing the situation... haste will get you nowhere fast

[Young Spark]

Want to buy something because you deserve it? Fuck you. You don’t deserve it.

I must say, that has got to be the most ridiculous thing I seen... the post may of been good, but that line was totally not needed. "Tough Love" you may say... its more like de-grading an individual to think "I'm not capable of success."

[TheCDAllenGroup]

I am surprised no one said anything about Financial Education.

[jasaunders]

Originally Posted by rejoice

you disagree with me and then you agree... get your head in the right place

ebook to get out of poverty... yet you have no definition of where poverty ceases

Tina Wells, Andrea Lake, Thomas Gorny, Jeff Fluhr, Alan Jones, Richard Branson, Steve McKnight (just a few more)

You have said I contradict myself; that I agree then disagree with you. I don't understand what parts are contradicting... can you please explain.

Poverty is defined in several ways... The U.S. government defines it with a poverty line that decides who receives welfare benefits. The line is supposed to indicate whether or not people are making a living wage. The unfortunate thing is that the government hasn't adjusted the line significantly in over 20 years (only minor inflation adjustments have been made which doesn't even match the actual inflation our economy has seen). There are many other issues with the threshold which I won't go into.

My definition of poverty is the current value of whether someone is making a living wage. Can a reasonable person have an adequate standard of living off of their income. For instance, a two-person family has a threshold of about $13,000 in the U.S. I find this number well below the income necessary for two people to live adequately.

In regards to the people you are naming, are you saying that the law of attraction is responsible for their success?

[rejoice]

you go about saying LOA is BS then you say it is a mindset
now you're asking if LOA is responsible for their success?
sounds like you're a little confused about what you're saying

if you have an opinion or view... go on and state it
if i said darkness was BS
and then i said darkness is when there is no light
what am i really saying? nothing at all

LOA is constant and it's up to you to use it benef