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    Exclamation Cheney in Charge, Hurry!

    Cheney is acting president; Bush sedated for routine colonoscopy.

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    Can we find a country to target for war now?

    Let's just take a country, any country on any continent, which will it be?

    Let's hurry up..., we only have less than 2 hours before Bush wakes up.
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    Heh. What's scary is Cheney is the one who really scares me. Bush is just stupid - Cheney is deviant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stealthy One View Post
    Heh. What's scary is Cheney is the one who really scares me. Bush is just stupid - Cheney is deviant.
    I second that! Deviant!
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    As business people I would think that we would have faith in Cheney. He was a successful CEO of an extremely large company. What more credentials could we ask for from someone running our country?

    I would much rather have a business person than a career politician.


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    ^^ I would rather have a person who cares.

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    the funny thing is;

    even when Busy is fully awake, each day, Cheney still makes most of the decisions.

    Let's just make sure that Cheney's peacemaker doesn't run out of battery, or else, Madam Skeaper Pelosi takes over the presidency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usakos View Post
    the funny thing is;

    even when Busy is fully awake, each day, Cheney still makes most of the decisions.

    Let's just make sure that Cheney's peacemaker doesn't run out of battery, or else, Madam Skeaper Pelosi takes over the presidency.
    that's why we are almost at war with everybody else, and now, look at what's happening in Russia+Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stealthy One View Post
    ^^ I would rather have a person who cares.
    cares about what?

    politics?
    the country?
    personal advancement?


    Cheney isn't interested in having a political career. He actually wants to get out of government as soon as he can. He already is financially set in life and just wants to retire for the rest of his life.

    So if you say he doesn't care, I think you're right. He doesn't care about politics and he doesn't care about personal advancement.

    I think he does care about doing what he thinks is the right and best thing to do. Whether you agree with him or not, its hard to blame someone for doing what they think is right/best.


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    RAD, if you think Cheney is not interested in politics, can you enlighten us with Cheney's political career?

    How far does he go back as a career politician, working in government?
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    Quote Originally Posted by usakos View Post
    RAD, if you think Cheney is not interested in politics, can you enlighten us with Cheney's political career?

    How far does he go back as a career politician, working in government?
    working in government is not the same as being a politician.

    What other political offices has he held? none that I know of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radreality View Post
    It doesn't matter what a person does, what matters are the reasons behind what they do; that determines whether or not it was good.
    No.


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    Quote Originally Posted by radreality View Post
    working in government is not the same as being a politician.

    What other political offices has he held? none that I know of.
    Then you have a lot to read and learn about politics;

    here is a quick view;

    His political career started in 1969, and he was member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Wyoming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usakos View Post
    Then you have a lot to read and learn about politics;

    here is a quick view;

    His political career started in 1969, and he was member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Wyoming.

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    your "quick view" is very deceiving.

    He never held a political position until 1978, and then only served until 1989.

    Do you consider secretary of defense a political position? you probably would, even though it's an appointed position. He served there from '89 to '93.

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    So I guess he had quite a political career, 15 years, WOW thats a long time, He's definitely a career politician.
    </sarcasm>

    Maybe the point I was trying to make in the other posts went over your heads, or maybe you're just too wrapped up in your mindsets to realize it. O'well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radreality View Post
    your "quick view" is very deceiving.

    He never held a political position until 1978, and then only served until 1989.

    Do you consider secretary of defense a political position? you probably would, even though it's an appointed position. He served there from '89 to '93.

    <sarcasm>
    So I guess he had quite a political career, 15 years, WOW thats a long time, He's definitely a career politician.
    </sarcasm>

    Maybe the point I was trying to make in the other posts went over your heads, or maybe you're just too wrapped up in your mindsets to realize it. O'well.
    May be we are reading two different bios of Dick Cheney.

    Read a copy below, and when someone is elected to a political office, I though it's because he politically ran and was elected to serve.

    On the same given link at Wikipedia, read this congress part, which states that Cheney was a U.S. congressman from 1978 to 1989, and to me that makes him a career politician;

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    In 1978, Cheney was elected to represent Wyoming in the U.S. House of Representatives to replace resigning Congressman Teno Roncalio, defeating his Democratic opponent, Bill Bailey. Cheney was reelected five times, serving until 1989. He was Chairman of the Republican Policy Committee from 1981 to 1987 when he was elected Chairman of the House Republican Conference. The following year, he was elected House Minority Whip.

    Among the many votes he cast during his tenure in the House, he voted in 1979 with the majority against making Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday a national holiday, and again voted with the majority in 1983 when the measure passed.

    He voted against the creation of the U.S. Department of Education, citing his concern over budget deficits and expansion of the federal government. He also claimed the Department was an encroachment on states' rights.[17]

    He also voted against funding Head Start. As a vice presidential candidate in 2000, he reversed his position.[18]

    In 1986, after President Reagan vetoed a bill to impose economic sanctions against South Africa for its official policy of apartheid, Cheney was one of 83 Representatives who voted against overriding the veto. In later years, Cheney articulated his opposition to "unilateral sanctions," against many different countries, stating "they almost never work."[19] He also opposed unilateral sanctions against Communist Cuba, and later in his career he would support multilateral sanctions against Iraq. In 1986, Cheney, along with 145 Republicans and 31 Democrats, voted against a nonbinding Congressional resolution calling on the South African government to release Nelson Mandela from prison, after the majority Democrats defeated proposed amendments to the language that would have required Mandela to renounce violence sponsored by the ANC and requiring the ANC to oust the Communist faction from leadership. The resolution was defeated. Appearing on CNN during the Presidential campaign in 2000, Cheney addressed criticism for this, saying he opposed the resolution because the ANC "at the time was viewed as a terrorist organization and had a number of interests that were fundamentally inimical to the United States."[20]

    Cheney also served as ranking minority member of the Congressional committee investigating Iran-Contra - a scandal involving members of the Reagan Administration who helped to illegally sell arms to Iran, and then used the proceeds to fund, also illegally, the Contras, a guerrilla militia in Nicaragua resisting the elected Sandinista government.[21] In that role he supervised the production of a minority report which strongly rejected the majority finding[22] that a "cabal of zealots" in the administration who had "disdain for the law" had violated the statute.[2][23]

    As a Wyoming Rpresentative, he was also known for his vigorous advocacy of the state's petroleum and coal businesses. The federal building in Casper, a regional center of the oil and coal business, was named the "Dick Cheney Federal Building."

    House Minority Whip

    In December 1988, the House Republicans elected Cheney to the second spot in the leadership, but he only served two and a half months, as he was appointed Secretary of Defense (see below) to replace former Texas Senator John G. Tower, whose nomination had been rejected by the Senate in March of 1989.
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    a career politician is someone who doesn't have other major careers. His time span in political offices is dwarfed by his private sector careers.

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