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    Big money in Water tech

    I came across this water purification system that i believe will be the next kitchen appliance. We all know the largest industry in the US is the pharmaceutical industry. Everyone seems to be diagnosing themselves and there is a line out the doctors office of people waiting to get their purple pill. If this is the largest industry, that means that there are a lot of people that are sick. You have to ask yourself, why are people sick? Why are children getting cancer? Why is there so many people with diseases?
    1931 Dr. Otto Warburg won the Nobel Peace Prize for discovering the cause of cancer. Cancer cells thrive in an acidic environment and cannot exist in an alkaline environment. The foods we eat, the bottled water we drink are all very acidic.
    This machine filters, ionizes, alkalizes, and microclusters water. I have seen trimendus health benifits of drinking this water, personally and from others. Any any DISease in the body causes malfunctions such as, acid reflux, arthritis, gout, etc. Once the body is balanced, it will function correctly. It just needs the proper tools to do so.
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    Let me guess- this unit costs 6K, and You will give the proud new buyer 1 year free of soaps, dishwashing liquid, shampoo...blah blah. Japanese have been using this water for ages...called Kangen.

    Am I spot on?

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    Thanks for the feedback. yes there is a unit you can purchase for 6k, but its for the restaurants. But i would suggest before you go ranting on about soap... do your dudiligence and find out what the product actually is. "condemnation without investigation is the purest form of ignorance." Albert Einstein

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    I have to admit, that is a great sales pitch. Asking questions, drawing on peoples emotions, providing imaginitive details on the outcome. Even the follow up is right there. Straight from a sales book.

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    Okay- minus the soap then. I was right. Your selling Kangen. You should be happy someone knows Kangen water in this forum. Surprising that you would get defensive about that.

    There's a guy in here VernieonaMission he's an MLMer too. No matter how much haters pound his thread-he comes back with less defensive remarks and he's got a good way of handling his objections. Take pointers from that guy.

    Anyway, don't get too boiled up, WaterMan! I wish you luck in your business.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterMan View Post
    I came across this water purification system that i believe will be the next kitchen appliance.
    What makes this water purification system better than, say, a Brita water purification system?

    Quote Originally Posted by WaterMan View Post
    We all know the largest industry in the US is the pharmaceutical industry.
    Are you sure about that? Unless you have a reliable source to back up statements of fact, which you don't, your credibility is shot, which it is.

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    Why is there so many people with diseases?
    When advertising, it is imperative that you use proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation in order to maintain your credibility. However, in your case, where your credibility is already shot, you don't need to worry so much about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by WaterMan View Post
    1931 Dr. Otto Warburg won the Nobel Peace Prize for discovering the cause of cancer. Cancer cells thrive in an acidic environment and cannot exist in an alkaline environment. The foods we eat, the bottled water we drink are all very acidic.
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    You again demonstrate your lack of credibility and knowledge. Dr. Warburg demonstrated that cancer cells, unlike healthy cells, mainly generate energy by a process called glycolysis, which is an entirely different proposition than the CAUSE of cancer.

    Quote Originally Posted by WaterMan View Post
    The foods we eat, the bottled water we drink are all very acidic.
    I'm curious to know where you can find "very acidic" bottled water. Please do tell.

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    I have seen trimendus health benifits of drinking this water, personally and from others.
    I believe you mean that you have seen TREMENDOUS health BENEFITS. Please elaborate as to the benefits that you have seen AS A RESULT OF DRINKING THE WATER.

    Quote Originally Posted by WaterMan View Post
    Any any DISease in the body causes malfunctions such as, acid reflux, arthritis, gout, etc. Once the body is balanced, it will function correctly. It just needs the proper tools to do so.
    It appears that you are proposing that using your water purification system will cure cancer. I think you've just won yourself a Nobel Prize!

    Quote Originally Posted by WaterMan View Post
    do your dudiligence and find out what the product actually is. "condemnation without investigation is the purest form of ignorance." Albert Einstein
    A. It's due diligence.

    B. You've already told us more than we need to know about the product, which is that it's not worth our time to even look at.

    C. "Making comments that are just plain bull----, is an even purer form of ignorance than condemnation without investigation." - Me

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    We have a real life Kevin Trudeau clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasaunders View Post
    I have to admit, that is a great sales pitch. Asking questions, drawing on peoples emotions, providing imaginitive details on the outcome. Even the follow up is right there. Straight from a sales book.
    Are you really so sure that it's a "great sales pitch?" It's one thing to ask questions, draw on people's emotions, and provide imaginative details on the outcome. It is an entirely different ballgame to make statements of fact that are incorrect. It doesn't matter how great your pitch or product are. If you bull----, which this pitch does, you kill your credibility. That goes to your reputation. And as we all know, reputation is hard as hell to rebuild after it has been ruined. Straight out of a textbook? Straight off of a used car lot. (No offense to those honest used car salesmen, just an analogy.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmenq2 View Post
    What makes this water purification system better than, say, a Brita water purification system?



    Are you sure about that? Unless you have a reliable source to back up statements of fact, which you don't, your credibility is shot, which it is.



    When advertising, it is imperative that you use proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation in order to maintain your credibility. However, in your case, where your credibility is already shot, you don't need to worry so much about it.



    You again demonstrate your lack of credibility and knowledge. Dr. Warburg demonstrated that cancer cells, unlike healthy cells, mainly generate energy by a process called glycolysis, which is an entirely different proposition than the CAUSE of cancer.



    I'm curious to know where you can find "very acidic" bottled water. Please do tell.



    I believe you mean that you have seen TREMENDOUS health BENEFITS. Please elaborate as to the benefits that you have seen AS A RESULT OF DRINKING THE WATER.



    It appears that you are proposing that using your water purification system will cure cancer. I think you've just won yourself a Nobel Prize!



    A. It's due diligence.

    B. You've already told us more than we need to know about the product, which is that it's not worth our time to even look at.

    C. "Making comments that are just plain bull----, is an even purer form of ignorance than condemnation without investigation." - Me
    I couldn't have said it all better myself.
    You've got to give him some credit though, like the rest of them; for TRYING TO POST COMPLETE BULL IN ORDER TO GAIN SOME MARKETING ON AN - Oh, here we go. This is the good part. ENTREPRENEURS FORUM.

    I'm not sure if he's aware that we do not care about a specific product here (referring to real life), unless of course we know about or are interested in the product. In which case, we'd already have at least limited information and trying to sell us lies would brand him a complete idiot, regardless of any further confrontation or defense.

    They never learn.

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    I didn't mean the content of the pitch was good. But the method to persuade was good. He used textbook methods of persuasion. Unfortunately, equating bottled water to people getting cancer isn't going to fool 99&#37; of the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasaunders View Post
    I didn't mean the content of the pitch was good. But the method to persuade was good. He used textbook methods of persuasion. Unfortunately, equating bottled water to people getting cancer isn't going to fool 99% of the people.
    Damn - i just signed up for it...

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    Of course I'm going to be defensive when the entire board falsely criticizes my statements. I wouldn't exactly say that I'm "boiled up," but you seem to be going to great lengths to get me there. If you think you have this whole business figured out then that's great for you. But unless you've done the tests yourself, don't imply that my statements are wrong. I have done the tests. I know for a fact that the bottled water you drink is acidic. Aquafina, Propel, Dasani, Arrowhead, etc. They're all acidic. And if you don't believe me then feel free to do your own pH testing. It's very easy. Until you can actually back your statements with something to show, your argument isn't very valid. And I don't think criticizing my spelling will help it.

    I was under the impression that we're all here to share ideas... but apparently everyone here knows so much about this business that they don't need to actually do any research. And you say I'm the one who will never learn? My original statement is proving to be more and more true. I'll say it again: "Condemnation without investigation is the purest form of ignorance." Albert Einstein. Here's another quote: "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain. But what do they know, right?
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    I would appreciate if you could please provide the following:

    Credible support (report from a reliable source) for your statement that the pharmaceutical industry is the largest industry in the United States,

    Credible support for your statement that Dr. Warburg won the Nobel Prize for discovering the cause of cancer, and

    Documentable results that you or anyone else has seen tremendous health benefits as a result of drinking water purified by your product.

    I am not falsely criticizing your statements. I am questioning your credibility for making the claims that you do. A bigger problem than condemning without investigation is accepting without question.

    If you can provide support for these factual statements that you have made, then I will acknowledge your credibility for making your claim more than I currently do. However, if you are unable to back up your statements of fact, and thus demonstrate to all here that you make statements and claims without factual support, then your credibility is shot, and your chances of selling your product are greatly diminished.

    Additionally, I was not taking a shot at you by calling to mind your improper spelling. Rather, I was raising the issue that lack of professionalism (which is really what it boils down to) harms your credibility.

    I look forward to your response. Now, quickly, get on Google and data mine the hell out of it!

    Note: This is not an attack on you. This is a perfect learning opportunity for all young entrepreneurs. Be honest, and don't make statements of fact that you are unable to support. Eventually, you will be called out on it. When you do, your credibility, and thus reputation, will come into question. Credibility and reputation are extremely difficult to rebuild once ruined.
    Quote Originally Posted by WaterMan View Post
    Of course I'm going to be defensive when the entire board falsely criticizes my statements. I wouldn't exactly say that I'm "boiled up," but you seem to be going to great lengths to get me there. If you think you have this whole business figured out then that's great for you. But unless you've done the tests yourself, don't imply that my statements are wrong. I have done the tests. I know for a fact that the bottled water you drink is acidic. Aquafina, Propel, Dasani, Arrowhead, etc. They're all acidic. And if you don't believe me then feel free to do your own pH testing. It's very easy. Until you can actually back your statements with something to show, your argument isn't very valid. And I don't think criticizing my spelling will help it.

    I was under the impression that we're all here to share ideas... but apparently everyone here knows so much about this business that they don't need to actually do any research. And you say I'm the one who will never learn? My original statement is proving to be more and more true. I'll say it again: "Condemnation without investigation is the purest form of ignorance." Albert Einstein. Here's another quote: "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain. But what do they know, right?
    Last edited by BusinessAdviser; 12-11-2007 at 03:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterMan View Post
    Until you can actually back your statements with something to show, your argument isn't very valid.
    And one additional note: I couldn't agree with you more on this point. Sometimes we should stop to consider whether we are following our own advice!

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