[Cole Taylor]

Originally Posted by Ahern & Brucker

Using Ron as one example, a guy who is really doing more good than harm with his invention... His motivations are sincere. Like many entprs the bottom line on the balance sheet isn't the "main" motivation for them doing what they do... They lead with their hearts first and walk a "different" path than say...

See now if Ron had your class and demeanor this thread wouldn’t be where it is right now.

In general I do think it's bad advice for entrepreneurs to focus on what they love doing assuming there's a want or need for their product/service.

There's another poll thread on here regarding why businesses fail. What's not on the list is people attempting to turn their love into a profitable business. If the numbers don’t make sense, you're going to fail every time.

Instead of concentrating on the facts Ron decides to claim he's my master, I'm his Son, and that he's teaching me a lesson. What lesson?

Guy BBB: your mob mentality, jumping on the bandwagon because it's the cool thing to do says a lot about you. The fact is I never said anything about your question being stupid. In fact, I believe I was the only one that answered your question and you thanked me for the site I gave you saying it was very helpful. So yeah, bad me for attempting to help you.

Others: If this thread does one thing it really shows how many "followers" there are. Jim Jones loved people like you.

[Cole Taylor]

Originally Posted by CASimmons

LMAO... That was a very tactful way of telling Cole to STFU. Logic is so superior to the "crap" he's selling.

How you get that is beyond me...good luck in life.

[GuyBBY]

Originally Posted by Cole Taylor

Guy BBB: your mob mentality, jumping on the bandwagon because it's the cool thing to do says a lot about you. The fact is I never said anything about your question being stupid. In fact, I believe I was the only one that answered your question and you thanked me for the site I gave you saying it was very helpful. So yeah, bad me for attempting to help you.

Cole, I am by no means a member that jumps on the band wagon. And yes I thanked you for the link you provided, however my claim was that you edited the post so quickly in offense as if my lag in time to reply was my being ignorant to your help, and that was my point to speak to your comments that get mean and hurtful towards those directed, and your ability to "fly off the handle".

After reading through this post ,and before I commented, I was upset at A. the turn it took off topic, and B. some of the comments you were making just did not warrant such sentiments.

Admittingly, some of Ron's lines in other posts like "I am going to be a billionaire one day I know it..." are just as much those comments that are like, "ok man cmon let's stick to the point here", but the comments and threats, etc. from you were much different than an annoying little blurb that a reader can get around...they were significantly changing the sentiments here on YE. Which is why I spoke to the true point of this site.

All in all, I think everyone on here has hang ups, and conflicting views and ways they would handle that with other members...such is life. But I think the true hatred and the threatening of punching teeth in etc, brings us down to the level of just another spam filled, muscle flexing through words website. And this was not the intention of the creators, nor for the true YE members looking to this site for what I stated in my last post.

Guy

[Ahern & Brucker]

Originally Posted by Cole Taylor

See now if Ron had your class and demeanor this thread wouldn’t be where it is right now.

In general I do think it's bad advice for entrepreneurs to focus on what they love doing assuming there's a want or need for their product/service.

There's another poll thread on here regarding why businesses fail. What's not on the list is people attempting to turn their love into a profitable business. If the numbers don’t make sense, you're going to fail every time.

Instead of concentrating on the facts Ron decides to claim he's my master, I'm his Son, and that he's teaching me a lesson. What lesson?

yeah but if i had ron's money, I could throw mine away! haha

God knows, I hate to go against the norm (or go with it for that matter) but in truth, most entrpnrs are doing what they love... they may love the product they sell or they may love the lifestyle or the challenges or even the harsh defeats... maybe they just love the freedom or maybe it's just validation but believe me, their is really no other reason to do it except for "love".

Being an entprnr is tough duty!

adversity in your face daily, fridays come and your pals are cashing their checks and you are trying to keep the bill collectors from kicking in your door... Why else would any sain, rational person do it for if not for love? the thrill of victory and agony of defeat...it's pretty powerful stuff.

your right in one respect... "because you love something doesn't mean it's going to be successful financially" but their are many ways one can take their perks. it helps if the numbers make sense but it's not "necessary"" for being successful except if your definition of success is profit.

Your point should be well taken/understood or considered by those who just want to "love a product" and assume because "they" love it, the world will follow... their reasons and motivations and expectations for doing what they are about to embark on need careful consideration at least if they have any chance of financial or enduring success.

Problem is, most people don't weigh their motivations or their thinking is cloudy with playing dress up and looking/acting the part. they are in love with the "idea" of being in love with what they do... they love the title of "entreprnr" this is maybe one reason why they fail. but the young guys have to learn this for themselves first hand and come to their own conclusions...

Ron could have called you something worse but probably had to restrain himself just like your melt down could have been worse... haha everybody melts down from time to time... it's the nature of the business... 1/2 the time we are runnning on adreneline fueled by hope and anticipation as we are maneuvering past the stark realities of the hazards and risks of failure..

ANyway, I'm all good with a duel at sunrise to settle it with you guys haha

that's really the proper way to handle insult upon injury

[CASimmons]

Originally Posted by Cole Taylor

How you get that is beyond me...good luck in life.

Well you haven't actually offered anything useful to the conversation. You more or so dragged the conversation quite far from it's original topic.

It was very tactful to let you now how much of a pain in the ass your were being with your cyncisms.

Contrary to "your" belief, successful people do what they love doing. Of course if what you love doing isn't marketable then it should be reserved as a hobby. Otherwise you should be doing exactly what you love the most as long as it's realistic for you to reach your defined level of success and maintain stability in your life.

There are many high-paid business people out there who hate life. They got the money but lack the passion for the 'job'.

The self-employed own jobs - Self reliant business people who trade time and effort solely for the purpose of generating income.

Entrepreneurs - Self reliant individuals who invest time, effort, passion and values for the opportunity to generate income from the things in life that brings them the most happiness and success.

Ron - Handi-straps is a great concept. I did some moving this week and basically adapted your concept into old bed sheets by using them as straps under large furniture pieces. I'm quite sure it isn't nearly as efficient as your invention but the concept sure made my day easier.

[BMX]

yeah........

[ron komorowski]

Thanks so much for the encouraging comments. I was doubting my time here if I am going to be attacked for no reason.

This thread is VERY important. We have ALL learned something here; how to be or not to be and the reactions of different ways of the entrepreneur. Money or heart, or both and which should be considered first.

This thread, any highly successful, well, maybe we all know more on how to reach that level. Successful thread. I hope we all continue to learn here. Can you just imagine if we could all pool our heads together to accomplish something? WOW! That is the way it should be and NO ONE should attack or insult another. They have no right no matter who has a wrong point. You should not name call or use drastic words to insult.

I see one or two people seem to call others morons etc. This is very low class behavior. We all make mistakes and no one is better than anyone here, maybe luckier (like Bob...he has all that nice gold and gems)...but not better. We are all just trying to do better. RESPECT for others is the very #1 way to succeed in anything in life.

[Terra Andersen]

I definitely agree with the sentiment of this thread. Most of my successful colleagues never disclose how much they make, but you can tell by the cars they drive, the vacations they take, and the homes they live in.

I had a wonderful year last year, and refer back to DCswimwear's commment... "making it is the easy part, keeping it is the hard part". Very true!

[crackah]

Yeah, I dont tell anyone how much I make, for the fact that why do they need to know?

Its what I mate, not them.

[ron komorowski]

I still say money comes second. Think as if you were the entrepreneur that started non-profits like MS Foundation, St.Jude charities or Feed The Children. If you sold pineapples to people that turn into gold I don't think you could ever match the self pride of starting one of these charities.

It's all about the heart. What is the difference, one, two or 20 million? Can numbers truly inspire? Seems to me numbers will quickly fade the drive. There needs to be something bigger, something more...

It doesn't have to be big either. It could be serving the best burgers to people to make them happy for a moment.

We all just do the best we can, and that is the best we could ever do, and if we all try our best, no one is ever better than anyone else.

We had a worker rushed by ambulance to the hospital for a heart attack. Turned out it was not as bad and not a heart attack. She came back later in the day and asked to make up the hours she missed. She operates a sewing machine. She is part of the team. I thought...WOW...I am no better nor deserve more respect than this woman; now or ever.

Money does not make the man....heart does. "Anyone can acquire, but legends contribute" (My personal quote I made for my bulletin board to inspire me)

Ron
Inventor of Handi-Straps
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