What PR have your sites got?

**adnan278** · 09-26-2006 12:14 PM

I just wanted to know, as a general question what PR (Pagerank) have your sites got that you own. What's your highest PR site?

I'll start:

At the moment my highest is PR0 with Blogtrepreneur but that's only been up for 3 months (im relatively new to the whole internet).

But using Pagerank Predict, Im predicted a nice PR6 for Blogtrepreneur in the next PR update.

You next!

**tekmoney** · 09-26-2006 12:50 PM

My company's website has a Page rank of 3 i believe. The redesign has only been up since April, so I'm happy with that for now.

http://tools.seobook.com/firefox/seo-for-firefox.html <--- this is a great tool for firefox users. Install, then get all kinds of information on your google/yahoo searches.

**sicnarftea** · 09-26-2006 09:53 PM

currently pagerank 2, but you can't really trust the toolbar,

google hardly ever changes PR for the toolbar, however they do change PR with their internal system, so if you start seeing good SERPs when you search for keywords which relate to your website, then you know your website is starting to do well

BTW don't trust thoes traffic predictions things, its like going to a fortune teller and asking them to tell you if you'll get rich in the future. No one can predict what google will do because its more than just the number of backlinks. There are alot of other factors, such as quality of links, relevance, if the linked site is a spam site, if the site being linked is new or old, really old sites gets a boost, really new sites gets a small boost, etc etc

way too many factors

a jump from 0 to 6 is like .. magical, because a page rank 6 site is really hard to get, but then again, good things sometimes happen to good people

**Deejay** · 09-27-2006 03:14 AM

All my sites have PR0

whats the point in getting a high PR?

**sicnarftea** · 09-27-2006 10:54 PM

well, point being search engine exposure. Depending on what type of website you have, it may or may not matter to you, however for most cases, having a good pr (as well as good and relevant content and SEO webpage) brings your page up higher than your competitors.

This means that you will be found during organic searches on google and hence saves you money from advertising with google adwords whilst retaining the traffic from google.

Its basically a win win situation for both you and google. You get traffic, they provide good content to the searcher.

Having a page rank 0 website usually means people will not be able to find your website via google organic searches. But if your website is on a topic which is so niche on the internet that only a you and a hand full of other websites have content on, then you may get found through a google search.

Alternatively, if you do not have the time/money/patience to attempt to increase your pagerank, you can pay for google adwords advertising and always appear on the first page of the search results.

I would suggest that people spend an extra bit of time during their design and implementation of the website to incoporate SEO tactics as changing it later on is definitely alot harder and more costly than before the website is made

**elaineelaine** · 09-28-2006 02:31 AM

PR3,is it good?

**adnan278** · 09-28-2006 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by sicnarftea

currently pagerank 2, but you can't really trust the toolbar,

google hardly ever changes PR for the toolbar, however they do change PR with their internal system, so if you start seeing good SERPs when you search for keywords which relate to your website, then you know your website is starting to do well

BTW don't trust thoes traffic predictions things, its like going to a fortune teller and asking them to tell you if you'll get rich in the future. No one can predict what google will do because its more than just the number of backlinks. There are alot of other factors, such as quality of links, relevance, if the linked site is a spam site, if the site being linked is new or old, really old sites gets a boost, really new sites gets a small boost, etc etc

way too many factors

a jump from 0 to 6 is like .. magical, because a page rank 6 site is really hard to get, but then again, good things sometimes happen to good people

Oh right, I didn't realise that the toolbars weren't correct. Thats a bummer. Is there any site/program that tells you your real PR. If you email Google will they let you know?

Also unfortunate about the PR Predict site. I was really looking forward to a high PR6 pagerank, for my text link ads. Anyway, I have got quite a few links so hopefully that will be at least a PR5.

Thanks for letting me know about the inaccuracies though!

**sicnarftea** · 09-29-2006 03:59 AM

unfortunately, it is actually beneficial for google to keep the PR a secret, in many different ways. Main point is that they keep the customers (adwords ones) who don't know much about SEO and believes that the only way to come up on the first page is to pay for it, which is completely wrong

As for getting page rank 6, its ofcourse possible that you may get that, during the next PR update, but i must stress that having a pagerank of 6/10 doesn't just happen, and takes a fair bit of work, and alot of quality inbound link. Also, the difficulty from getting from a lower PR to a high PR grows exponentially as your current PR increases, so alot of websites comes to a sudden stop at around 6 or 7. I mean google.com.au has a page rank of like 8 or something, and this is google themselves.

Btw, keep in mind that having a high pagerank does not mean you will come up on search results pages, it merely means that you have alot of good inbound links. To get top or within the first page of results on google, you will need to optimize your webpage with good and relevant keywords, as well as SPECIFIC keywords. You page must also be relevant to the inbound links you are getting.

All in all, it really comes straight back down to "Does your website deserve to come up on google search results? Does it have good content and a user friendly environment? Will peopel be willing to link to you due to the quality of your content? Was the website built for users or search engines?"

One more thing, page rank means exactly what it means, a rank for a specific page. There are high chances that your internal pages may have a higher page rank than your home page.

I can go on for ages on SEO, but I shouldn't, i face it all day already at work -_-"

**BasementGuru** · 09-29-2006 10:01 AM

PR doesnt really mean much

although I have PR4, PR3 and PR6 from a site I co own with a few partners

**adnan278** · 09-29-2006 11:33 AM

Oh right. Thanks for all that info sicnarftea, you obviously know your stuff. Maybe I shouldn't be so obsessed with pagerank, its just that Im so eager to get into Text Link Ads and apparently my links don't show up in Google. Therefore Im waiting for the next PR update so that my links show up properly and so it would be better for a person to buy a link on my site.

I think you're right. Your page will climb rankings if you offer something valuable. I heard from a few people that Google also sees how long visitors stay at your site after they have found you in searches, as the longer they stay, the more help your site has been - and so the higher your site will climb.

Anyway, I'll continue to focus on content, but does anyone actually know when the next Google PR update, or any type of update is occurring?

Thanks,
Adnan

**sicnarftea** · 09-30-2006 02:56 AM

yeh, content over SEO. you got content, you will eventually turn up on the search engine regardless of pagerank.

**Toure28** · 09-30-2006 08:02 AM

The PR update has already started.

There's no way your site will be hitting a PR of 6 dude...

Your quality (not quantity) of trusted links will have to improve quite a bit to make that grade.

Looks like the data centers that have updated so far suggested your heading for a PR4. Take a look -

http://livepr.raketforskning.com/?u=...trepreneur.com

Not bad for a site 3 months old though.

**NeeJam** · 09-30-2006 06:20 PM

www.buymydesktop.com < all pr 4 except one page which was added after pr update

www.announceabirthday.com < guess theres been another pr update

**Deejay** · 09-30-2006 09:24 PM

I think that sites BS :P
I get PR0 on my site - yet I am number 1 result for many keywords/phrases.

**adnan278** · 10-01-2006 10:03 AM

Thanks for that link Toure28. Yeah turns out that I didn't hit the PR6 at all! I blame it on that dodgy PR Predict site which is at the top of Google!

At the moment a few of the datacentres are saying PR4, but the others are saying PR0. Will this mean that I have been completely unable to get to a PR4 this time, or will my PR hit 4 in a few days time. I think time is a major factor in terms of PR, but at least I am getting some good hits from Google anyway.

Well done on your sites Nick, and Deejay, so long as you're getting search engine traffic, I guess thats still great.